rBart - Thanks for your reply. Yes, I was referring to the replies in this thread, most of which sounded something like, "I don't have a problem getting it to work, sounds like you are a moron." Even if the OP wasn't at all tactful, there's still at least a reasonable chance that he wasn't the problem here. Effectively calling someone stupid because you don't like what they said isn't terribly constructive, as Torsten noted. If nothing else, it's a way of calling everyone who can't figure out how to get Hugin to work, whether like Hugues or not, stupid.
Aside from that, I completely agree. Not perfect, but surprising it works as well as it does. Maintaining it is a challenge. And as I've said in every post now, the developers should be respected and appreciated. Here's to hoping 2014 is better than 2013. On Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:52:39 PM UTC-4, Bart van Andel wrote: > > Jeff, > > On Thursday, May 15, 2014 2:12:34 PM UTC+2, Jeff W wrote: >> >> The only reason I've entered this discussion at all is that following >> Hugues' admittedly not-terribly-helpful post, the universal response from >> the community was what we might call the Apple playbook: blame the user. >> You didn't take time to get to know the software. You must not understand >> what's going on. You're holding it wrong. You're not computer savvy enough. >> You are just part of the point and shoot crowd that wants a one click >> solution. You should be using Linux instead of Windoze. Etc. >> > > By "universal response" I assume you are referring to the responses in > this specific thread, which started by a rather hostile message basically > calling crap on everything Hugin is about. That's arguably not the best way > to get any help at all. > > There are numerous threads pointing out various (far too many) problems of > Hugin on various kinds of systems. Most of them were written in a much more > relaxed tone, resulting in a completely different kind of discussion from > the one in this here thread. You'll agree with me that nice questions > deserve nice answers, whereas questions asked like the developers produced > nothing but an executable pile of steaming shit deserve to be flushed down > the toilet, or at the very least may expect some "less subtle" responses. > > Consider this example. You are helping out in a shop which gives away > refurbished electronics equipment to people who cannot afford it. Of course > you are doing this without compensation, and only if you have spare time > left after your busy everyday job and other activities. Someone enters the > shop, carrying with him a faulty hard drive. Which complaint would you > prefer: > - "This hard drive is utter shit, I tried to connect it to my computer > once and it didn't work!", or > - "Something is wrong with this device, my computer does not recognize it > somehow. The light is blinking and the drive seems to be spinning, but no > matter what USB port I try, my OS cannot see it." > > I guess the answer is obvious. Maybe you'd still try to help out a rude > customer, but with a lot less willingness than when helping a polite > customer. > > > I agree with you however that Hugin severely lacks in stability and speed, > and that the UI and workflow could use improvement. Long time user here, > not very happy yet with the current state of the (new) UI, but I know > enough about the program to work around most annoyances most of the time. > However, considering almost everything is done in the spare time of a > pretty diverse group of contributors, without an architecture overseeing > things or a lot of code review, I don't think it's a bad product at all. > Supporting the subtleties of several different kinds of OS (Linux, iOS, > Windows, all in several flavors) isn't a straightforward task. Many > libraries are involved, some of which require (or have required in the > past) adaptation specific for Hugin. Not an easy thing to maintain. > > In the end, it's a complex product, far from perfect, but still a hell of > an accomplishment. And I'm usually very happy with the results it produces, > especially considering I shoot almost everything hand-held with auto > exposure. > > -- > Bart > -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/a2ff2fe4-0c44-4b9a-a2cb-67aa0c82319c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
