Hi all; Just thought I'd add another paper that has a mention of tinnitus: Biological Effects of Microwaves: Thermal and Nonthermal Mechanisms, By John Michael Williams found it on my way to exploring the physics of the situation. http://128.84.158.114/pdf/physics/0102007
>From the conclusion pg. 39, (which doesn't mention the tinnitus, but does mention in the paper) Bothersome or unhealthful effects of EMR within thermal safety limits have been demonstrated empirically and are supported theoretically. The microwave spectrum in certain bands, or under certain conditions, probably should be treated more like a pharmacist's shelf than the termperature knob on an oven. Decisions as to safety should be steered by persons more knowledgeable in medicine than has been the case in the past. It does make mention of tinnitus and the possibility of other high pitch frequencies that may have been mistaken for tinnitus. The paper did make me think of a different high pitch I've heard over my life time - it never stayed very long though. Just another human with another day Patty On May 9, 1:46 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > Trev Are you inferring your tinnitus is known to come and go because > of blood pressure medicine??? > > On May 8, 2:47 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Tinnitus? > > It comes and goes with BP meds, for a starter.[Known for it] > > Also ,I've had 'it' years before Hum kicked in. > > > As for victims- I object to the dysfunctional handle, rather than the > > true 'functional'. > > > On May 8, 6:45 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > No it didn't sound like a case of blaming the victim just not blaming > > > an industry > > > How can you be sure you actually have HF tinnitus when they are > > > admitting in this 2009 study that The pathophysiology is still > > > incompletely understood. ??? > > > > On May 7, 4:28 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Sounds like a case of blaming the victim! > > > > I suffer from HF tinnitus and never previously or recently thought it > > > > has anything to do with EM sensitivity,as such. > > > > They may well co-exist- that is something different! > > > > Recently , I travelled away some distance and the Hum stopped , but > > > > not the tinnitus- that's mine, > > > > The Hummmm is somebody elses.... > > > > > On May 7, 4:43 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > CONCLUSIONS: Our data indicate that tinnitus is associated with > > > > > subjective electromagnetic hypersensitivity. > > > > > > PLoS One. 2009;4(3):e5026. Epub 2009 Mar 27 > > > > > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19325894?ordinalpos=1&itool=Entrez... > > > > > > Association of tinnitus and electromagnetic hypersensitivity: hints > > > > > for a shared pathophysiology? > > > > > Landgrebe M, Frick U, Hauser S, Hajak G, Langguth B. > > > > > Department of Psychiatry, Psychosomatics, and Psychotherapy, > > > > > University of Regensburg, Regensburg, Germany. > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > BACKGROUND: Tinnitus is a frequent condition with high morbidity and > > > > > impairment in quality of life. The pathophysiology is still > > > > > incompletely understood. Electromagnetic fields are discussed to be > > > > > involved in the multi-factorial pathogenesis of tinnitus, but data > > > > > proofing this relationship are very limited. Potential health hazards > > > > > of electromagnetic fields (EMF) have been under discussion for long. > > > > > Especially, individuals claiming themselves to be electromagnetic > > > > > hypersensitive suffer from a variety of unspecific symptoms, which > > > > > they attribute to EMF-exposure. The aim of the study was to elucidate > > > > > the relationship between EMF-exposure, electromagnetic > > > > > hypersensitivity and tinnitus using a case-control design. > > > > > METHODOLOGY: Tinnitus occurrence and tinnitus severity were assessed > > > > > by questionnaires in 89 electromagnetic hypersensitive patients and > > > > > 107 controls matched for age-, gender, living surroundings and > > > > > workplace. Using a logistic regression approach, potential risk > > > > > factors for the development of tinnitus were evaluated. FINDINGS: > > > > > Tinnitus was significantly more frequent in the electromagnetic > > > > > hypersensitive group (50.72% vs. 17.5%) whereas tinnitus duration and > > > > > severity did not differ between groups. Electromagnetic > > > > > hypersensitivity and tinnitus were independent risk factors for sleep > > > > > disturbances.. However, measures of individual EMF-exposure like e.g. > > > > > cell phone use did not show any association with tinnitus. > > > > > CONCLUSIONS: Our data indicate that tinnitus is associated with > > > > > subjective electromagnetic hypersensitivity. An individual > > > > > vulnerability probably due to an over activated cortical distress > > > > > network seems to be responsible for, both, electromagnetic > > > > > hypersensitivity and tinnitus. 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