Agree with the use of FFT, spectrograph to understand and demonstrate
the presense of ILFN hum.  Measurements from what appears no to little
hum seem to only be slightly less than a good rant hum and "tingle"
vibrations.  After analyzing the FFT for 1.5 years at varying levels
from 0 to 10, with simple equipment, it appears more that the db
fluctuations from Peak to Peak have far more control of hum than the
ave amplitude.  Quiter days have less P-P spread and excitment than
high hum days.

Will have to try th pillow filter on the next test of spectral
characteristics for my hum breaker the "ceiling fan". Initial testing
definitly shows a freq pattern change that seems to break th activity
of teh hum characteristics.  Of course you get a tonal 60 HZ peak, but
it's oothing

On Dec 22, 9:31 am, Vic <[email protected]> wrote:
> The "providers" of the Hum; "them" or "they"; are quite aware of the
> "special effects" that their products and installations cause. Not
> talking with regard to the "the guy on the tools" here, but rather the
> "suits" that make the big decisions - And they are not about to give
> away the fact that they do know or the extent of these effects.
>
> There may be no justice, but there is the law.
>
> Problem is, the "Hearer" has to find out where this junk is
> originating before the laws can be applied. And we ain't about to get
> any help in that respect.
>
> The Laws of Physics are universal. Reference points; frequencies,
> values, I/O, ON/OFF; have been applied to their subject by humans.
> Humans have been known to make mistakes. However, this "Hum" in its
> entirety is not an error, it's about making big money for the
> few....."Them".
>
> Remember here, "they" and governments are one and the same.
>
> On Dec 22, 1:35 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I don't think the Schmitt trigger applies to my hum, it is not
> > hairline threshold- rather more drifting in intensity and faint
> > modulation over long periods. I could see that thresholds with fast
> > wave-front capability may be implicated in microwave hearing- but then
> > again that's not generally what we are all talking around in 'steady
> > hum'.
> > Age is a big factor- and most people put on weight  with age, also.
> > I agree with Vic here on the 'norm' being a blind alley , as it is an
> > escape route for rogues who use bad reference points to obscure the
> > basics, never mind the special effects dept we live in!
> > The rogues here are not the providers of hum- they are mostly probably
> > unaware of the downside to their businesses and have a job to do.
> > [Black projects excepted]
> > No, I mean the people who are capable of nailing the problem- like
> > environmental consultants, health pro's [and yes! Gov'ts] etc who all
> > have the corporate links which 'de-tunes' them as we 'tune up' to the
> > intrusive noise.
> > The ironic filings in your demo show up well, Vic! I think they spell
> > 'very hacked off'.
>
> > On Dec 22, 3:50 am, Vic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "The Norm" - This excellent reference point (not) is based on the
> > > hearing of a cognizant child's brain/hearing mechanism NOT hearing a
> > > sonic wave in the atmosphere at 1KHz; which he would interpret as 0dB
> > > (non-weighted).
>
> > > Yep, there's definitely something wrong with all of us that hear this
> > > darn Hum alright!
>
> > > On Dec 21, 3:06 am, John Dawes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On the question of the Hum being either on or off. Consider the
> > > > possibility of the individual having a threshold level, which acts
> > > > something like a Schmitt trigger. If the Hum energy or the sensitivity
> > > > of the individual goes above or below this level it would give the
> > > > impression of the Hum being switched on and off. We must remember at
> > > > all times that we are not the norm, over ninety per cent of the
> > > > population do not hear this thing. For many people the Hum begins
> > > > quite suddenly with a change of age and for a few people who had
> > > > suffered for many years, it disappeared just as suddenly. I asked some
> > > > of these sufferers to think very hard and make a note of any changes
> > > > which took place in their homes or their locality or in themselves and
> > > > the only answer that I got was that they had put on weight.
>
> > > > On Dec 20, 2:02 am, Vic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Some that make recording attempts of these low-frequency sonic waves
> > > > > probably succeed to some extent. However, from experience I, for one,
> > > > > am aware that equipment is manufactured to only record sound that
> > > > > occurs in the "normal" band of human hearing. Manufacturers are hardly
> > > > > going to produce products that don't sell in the millions- Supply and
> > > > > Demand - Particularly in our present "New World Order" where Chinese
> > > > > factories are tailor-made to fit the multitude of consumers in the
> > > > > West.
>
> > > > > To do the job right, you need the right tools..........
>
> > > > > These successful (together with the unsuccessfulful) recorders make 2
> > > > > fatal mistakes: No reference frequency and playback speaker choice.- 
> > > > > Hide quoted text -
>
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