Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Fw:"...legal sanction to a brazenly barbaric politics of 
majoritarianism." -teesta


   Since we have to laugh at ourselves and what we are doing  to
  this country and the nature of the discourse , it is necessary to state 
  that  a family member of one the political leaders who lead the movement 
  wrote in an affidavit  pursuant to a family dispute (which was being 
  circulated by members of the same political party, when faction infighting 
  took place  in the political party )that middle class and rich people out of 
   devotion and faith presented silver murtis of the deity  to the leader , 
which 
  were  later converted  into silver cutlery, as the family to whom they were 
  presented though a vital part of the movement to contruct the temple , 
  are not devotees of Ramchandraji .

    There are 20,000 Ram Mandirs in Faizabad( former Ayodhya)
  and many Masjids . The Mandirs all claim that Ram  was born on
  the site of the Mandir . 

  It is necessary to reclaim the  political and social space from
  tendentious discourse .

                           Niloufer Bhagwat
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Niloufer Bhagwat 
    To: [email protected] ; gajendra singh 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 2:42 PM
    Subject: Re: Fw:"...legal sanction to a brazenly barbaric politics of 
majoritarianism." -teesta



     The real reason is not majoritarianism ,it is financial and political
    control over society which has led to the  distorted " Jehadi discourse"
    by banking interests and financiers and their touts  to justify seizure of 
    resources theworld over .As the people of Faizabad ( Ayodhya) inform 
everyone
    this is a dispute fanned by outsiders.

     Just as the village money lender with his upper caste/upper class alliance 
    needed the Dalits and other backward classes  as  flogging horses for the
     rapacious financial exploitation with untouchability and caste as a 
suitable social
     and economic diversion to justify control over village society and its 
economy 
    sanctioned by the spiritual mumbo jumbo of Brahminical rituals ;in the same 
way 
    those who control India 's economy and the world economy require a flogging 
horse
    in an attempt to divert attention from the theft of billions and trillions 
from
    the national budget by Bankers, Financiers and  private corporations  the 
world
    over .

    The 'jehadi discourse' commenced when several countries had to be invaded 
for
    capture of resources and within countries the national budget was to be
    diverted towards special interests and serves this purpose .

    This is not a majoritarian versus minority issue , this is creeping fascism
    which requires the demonisation of a whole community , to camouflage
    the economic and political attack on the savings and resources of a
    substantial section of society . Fascism as a political system requires
    the criminalization of the whole society .

     It is significant that the movement which finally resulted in the 
demolition of
    the Masjid commenced with IMF World Bank taking over governance in India
    through local collaborators . A massive diversion for the political change 
over.

    Systematically over two decades a villication campaign commenced singling 
out
    in the national newspapers and the media the Muslims as the new Dalits , the
    flogging horse ; the same justification which was used to justify 
untouchability
    before the arrival of Mahatma Gandhi and Dr. Ambedkar on the scene , both 
socialists,
    has now been used to resurrect historical myths to portray the Muslim 
community
    as the new untouchables with pogroms and attacks from time to time .

    The plots to overthrow by assassination and physical force India's first
    cabinet formed after 1947 , was an upper caste/upper class conspiracy
    against the  social and economic democratization which the upper 
castes/classes
    were of the opinion disturbed their hegemony over Indian society .

    There are several newspapers now hired for this task, all allied with 
finance
    capital local and global .The financiers of Mumbai made it their covert
    strategy, therefore it was not one party alone as disclosed by the Mumbai
    Pradesh Congress party workers , that their leaders had also been involved
    along with the saffron forces . The pogroms of Mumbai and Gujarat were to
    strengthen the control over these two State of the Western region and the
    national budget  by creating a new basis of loyalty ' Hindutva' which had 
also
     been used to create the two nation theory to assist British Imperialism  
to preserve 
    economic and political control over the Indian Subcontinent ; to  
consolidate
     the space taken over by well known business and commercial houses to 
camouflage
     that hereinafter the guiding principles of political and economic policy 
in these
    regions and other extended regions would be in  the interest of capital and
    their priorities .


    The historical fact is that Babar had lost his own kingdom and
    arrived in Afghanistan with a band of a few  hundreds of horsemen ,
    insufficient to conquer or defeat any country .It is the Rajputs who
     invited Babar to India ,this is an elementary historical fact .

      There is deliberate distortion of Indian history .The
      leading nobles in the Court of the Mughals were always
    Rajputs . India was never ruled exclusively by the Mughals,
     it was Mughal -Rajput rule . Even against the Maratha
    kingdom the Mughal armies were always led by Rajput generals.

      The control which the upper caste/ upper class elements have
    exercised over Indian society , is reflected in the refusal of the
    96 ruling Maratha clans supported by the Brahmins and upper
    castes  to crown Shivaji . India has had an informal reservation from 
    time immemorial in favour of the upper castes/upper classes which 
    Mahatma Gandhiand Dr. Ambedkar made it their political plank to bring 
    to an end.

    In respect of the attacks against so called outsiders in Mumbai
    ( when they are in their own country ) ,significantly there are no
    attacks against financiers and business houses who are not 
    Maharastrians , but against the poorest of the poor.The
    heads of business houses are not asked to address their 
    shareholders in Marathi or to print share forms and certificates 
    in Marathi .The attacks are always against the poorest migrants .

    There is complete silence as to how so many people
    of Maharashtrian origin are found in areas which
    are Hindi speaking , such as Madhya Pradesh in all
    major cities and in other parts of the country  including
    working and living in Arab countries which are so called
     " Jehadi countries ". 


    Unfortunately such  discourse and criminal  acts
    are leading  to the criminalization of a whole society
    since for  the execution of such violent , illegal 
    and covert acts, the entire machinery of the State has
    to be used in one form or another . Once officials
    succumb to becoming  instruments of criminality they
    cannot revert to honest administrative decisions .

    It is time to renew our pledge to the Constitution
    of India  and to the Rule of Law .The famous Buddhist 
    Emperor Ashok in his  edicts had observed that we 
    respect our own culture only when we  honour the culture
     of others .We have come a long way since then .The Khap 
    Panchayat and many other political organizations which routinely
    attack the poorest of the poor on the ground of cultural
    identity  remind us that there is no difference between us 
    and the Taliban . We can refer to these organizations as
    the" Talibanization " of Indian Society .

     The Buddha ,a great philosophical thinker an outstanding
    humanist who spent a life in the service of humanity ,
     had talked of a 'Middle Path' . We need a Middle Path
    in India to avoid  self destruction and disaster for all , even as
    erstwhile major financial centres of the world face imminent
    disaster and as  the criminalization of Indian society grows by
    leaps and bounds .

    A political, financial and  economic system which is leading
    to the financial and economic collapse of  the United States 
    cannot be our role model . In India 25% of GDP is already
    controlled by a few families and 100 billionaires are
     representatives of the Indian people in the Indian  Parliament . 

    Finally the Aryans are not the indigenous inhabitants of
    this country . Whereas the tribal people are the first people
    of this country ,whose resources are being presently seized
     without alternative livelihoods ,  in an attempt to devastate
    the ecology of  their regions by  rapacious mining by the 
    descendants of  the Aryan invaders who enslaved the country
    imposing their culture !!!!!!!!!

                         Niloufer Bhagwat

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      Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 3:02 PM
      Subject: Fw:"...legal sanction to a brazenly barbaric politics of 
majoritarianism." -teesta


      ----- Forwarded Message ----
      From: teesta setalvad <[email protected]>
      To: sudhir devadas <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]; [email protected]
      Sent: Tue, 5 October, 2010 2:09:34 PM
      Subject: 

      ((Sept 30 2010))
      While the cursory attempt of the Court to reconcile this dispute by 
dividing the land threeways may be welcome, a disturbing question remains.
      ...What was being decided here was the civil dispute over land ownership 
alone--not matters of faith-- while the two criminal cases over the illegal and 
unConstitutional demolition of the Babri Mosque on 6.12.1992, in full public 
view, provoked by political and religious leaders are still pending. How have 
the Judges justified their silence on the criminal acts of 1992, acts that were 
bloody as they cost human lives apart from wilfully destorying a Mosque and 
1949??
      What will the impact of this verdict be on what were clearly and 
blatantly a violent and illegal act?Related to this is the critical question, 
can and should Courts adjudicate on matters of faith? 


      I recall Baba Laldas' interviews in Raam Ke Naam, a film by Anand 
Patwardhan when he analysed the motives behind the movement, the kind of 
violence that led up to 6.1.2.1992. He was mysteriously killed in 1993...He was 
the Court appointed iMahant who's bodyguard was removed by the BJP government 
in Uttar Pradesh...His suspicious death has also gone judicially 
unaddressed...The Judgement has given legal sanction to a brazenly barbaric 
politics of majoritarianism.


      Teesta Setalvad, Mumbai 

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