Hej, Arle,

I totally agree. And I did not intend you to have the Black Pete (does this
metaphor work in English? In our region  ³Black Pete² is an children¹s card
game...) re-working the wikipedia site. My remarks were more or less meant
that somebody should do it... And I see that probably it IS like you
described the behaviour of the ³Metallcia fans².

Best,
Uli


Am 13.10.10 10:46 schrieb "Arle Lommel" unter <[email protected]>:

> Ulrich,
> 
> While I sympathize with your position, I feel like fighting the tide of
> ignorance may be a bit like trying to bail out the ocean with a teaspoon.
> However, just because I don't want to do it doesn't mean others should not,
> and I'd be very happy to be proved wrong. My point merely was to explain that
> that article was deliberately created (by me) as an escape valve to help drain
> the constant flow of crap being added to main article. Since its creation I've
> looked at it maybe twice and I've tried to keep the link unobtrusive so that
> more people don't see it.
> 
> Technically, by Wikipedia standards the article should not exist at all, but
> people insist in putting stuff like "Metallica used hurdy-gurdy in one of
> their songs. Metallica rulez!" into the lead paragraph on a regular basis (and
> persist in reinserting it when removed) unless you give them a place to dump
> it.
> 
> -Arle
> 
> 
> On Oct 13, 2010, at 10:15 , Ulrich Joosten wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> the ³playing a gurdie¹s keys from underneath² seems to be a Hollywood
>> pattern. Spotting the hurdy-gurdy in Ridley Scott¹s ³Robin Hood² (at least to
>> see in the longer director¹s cut) being played from underneath made me feel
>> pissed. The German subtitels of the score writer (not sure if that was this
>> guy ore somebody else) mentioning the hurdy-gurdy made me  even more angry
>> because hurdy-gurdy was translated as ³Leierkasten² what mens ­ of course -
>> ³barrel organ².
>> 
>> So I am not really d¹accord to Arle if we should not react regarding the
>> wiki. Do we really want that music of industry ignorants can display a
>> (probably) hungarian gurdy played with trompette (dubbed by Nigel Eaton) in a
>> movie pretending to show it¹s story located in the medievals ³more
>> historically correct²?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Uli
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 13.10.10 02:45 schrieb "Arle Lommel" unter <[email protected]
>> <x-msg://7/[email protected]> >:
>> 
>>> That recordings page was created to give every idiot who felt compelled to
>>> write that <insert semifamous person here> once <choose one:thought
>>> about/played/looked at/dreamed about/heard about> a hurdy-gurdy a place to
>>> put down their fevered scribblings. Before that was created, these people
>>> kept defacing the main article with their insatiable appetite for insipid
>>> trivia.
>>> 
>>> So I din't think it's worth wasting time on cleaning up that article in any
>>> way since its sole reason for existence is to keep that crap from being
>>> dumped into the main HG article.
>>> 
>>> Just my two cents, but thought you might care to know why that stupid
>>> article exists in the first place.
>>> 
>>> -Arle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2010, at 01:36 , [email protected] <x-msg://7/[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A bit embarrassing, I think. Especially the point where Sting is attributed
>>>> to having played one on the Oscars, and that one is played by the Tom Hanks
>>>> character in Polar Express (no mention of the hand playing it from
>>>> underneath).
>>>>  
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recordings_featuring_the_hurdy_gurdy
>>>>  
>>>> At least the article on the gurdy itself is good...
>>>>  
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurdy_gurdy
>>>>  
>>>> Mitch Gordon
>>>> Guerneville, CA, US

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