I don't want to get side tracked by religious debate but there were two main
religious  beliefs/churches in Ukraine - and still is.
Orthodox (which itself is split into 3 categories), and Greek Catholics
which are similar to Roman Catholics but with special dispensations from
Rome eg. priests are allowed to be married if they were so before they took
their final vows.

Lirnyky played outside/near to churches( and market/ bazars) because that's
where the people cum potential income was - regardless of denomination hence
the spiritual,religious and moral content of their repertoire.

On the question of wax/cylindrical recordings of lirnyky please read the
following - go down the page to an incredible artcle by William Noll   ;

 http://www.loc.gov/folklife/news/Spring93.txt

Hope this might be of interest to many HG enthusiasts.

Keep the wheel turning
Perebendya

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Winters, James <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hello, and testing to see if this works, to post in. I do have a few
> museum pictures of lira. Also there is one man in New York. I could
> describe more. Natalie is in Canada and wrote once to me. She used to
> be in Virginia. I have two copies of her book. Her PhD is in folklore
> from that region as far as I know, or that is what she teaches for
> sure. I wanted to say that this is a great topic in my opinion.
> The sociological part of the hurdy gurdy seems to me to be so very
> interesting. Poland's history is there, a little too, along with the
> Ukraine. I was in Poland once but only to play jazz. Poland is as we
> know much more Catholic and the Ukraine more Orthodox. I don't want to
> go on too much and I'm not an expert, oh no, only feel interested in
> slightly technical writings about the Lirnyk (the people). What this
> is about is the Byzantine lira, hence the Orthodox mind set, it seems.
> Yet, Polish lira players also existed or where they sighted not blind?
> I'd love to read more. I would love if someone has access and
> rerecorded the sound on a wax roll to digital such as for a simple
> youtube. How happy those very humble people might feel if they could
> have even known of modern interest. Life is strange indeed.
>
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