Still alive as well- just a lull for me…

Don V. Lax

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On Apr 25, 2014, at 12:36 PM, [email protected] wrote:

>   Today's topic summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/topics
> 
> All quiet on the list [11 Updates]
> question about strings and tuning [5 Updates]
> Gurdy by Robert Mandel available [2 Updates]
> music sources [1 Update]
> sticky keys [6 Updates]
>  All quiet on the list
> Arle Lommel <[email protected]> Apr 25 04:49AM -0700  
> 
> I'm curious what's happened to the group here. It's now almost six weeks 
> since the last post and this used to have many posts a day. Have people 
> moved to other venues (e.g., Facebook) or has interest just simply dropped 
> off? I know some of the “old timers” moved on a while back, but we used to 
> get great discussions about all sorts of technical questions and playing 
> technique here.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Arle
>  
> Ulrich Joosten <[email protected]> Apr 25 01:53PM +0200  
> 
> I’m still alive’n’kickin’, Arle. As you said: at the moment it is quiet. Me 
> personally I am very busy with other things (e.g. promoting my book „Der Weg 
> des Spielmanns“ that just was publisehd) or making music with my band. So 
> this is at least a „sign of life“ on the list. Are you still located in 
> Berlin?
>  
> Cheers,
> Uli
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> Arle Lommel <[email protected]> Apr 25 01:54PM +0200  
> 
> Yep, still in Berlin, at least through July (and, we hope, another year).
>  
> -Arle
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> Ulrich Joosten <[email protected]> Apr 25 02:03PM +0200  
> 
> Great, Arle,
>  
> if you happen to come to Cologne, let me know!
>  
> Have a great time and a nice weekend!
>  
> Best, 
> Uli
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> DEREK LOFTHOUSE <[email protected]> Apr 25 06:30AM -0600  
> 
> combination of things I think
> There is (at least one) a facebook group. Its fairly busy, but not the depth 
> of technical info and discussions that used to occur here.
> Alot of the posts here used to originate with people connected with the Over 
> the Water festival, after the last one in 2010 most of those people seemed to 
> lose interest/drift away/move on to other things.
> I know there used to be a UK based list also, i never joined it so I cant 
> tell you if it has died also.
>  
> The death of this group isnt unique though,the wooden flute, irish music and 
> northumbrian pipes chat groups have also basically vanished also.
> Other groups i am in have also moved to different venues.
>  
> Derek
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> From: "Arle Lommel" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 5:49:16 AM
> Subject: [HG-new] All quiet on the list
>  
>  
> I'm curious what's happened to the group here. It's now almost six weeks 
> since the last post and this used to have many posts a day. Have people moved 
> to other venues (e.g., Facebook) or has interest just simply dropped off? I 
> know some of the “old timers” moved on a while back, but we used to get great 
> discussions about all sorts of technical questions and playing technique 
> here. 
>  
>  
> Best, 
>  
>  
> Arle 
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> Harry Wass <[email protected]> Apr 25 11:24PM +1000  
> 
> Maybe too many questions too much talk takes the magic out of things what
> do you think?
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> Billy Horne <[email protected]> Apr 25 07:39PM +0300  
> 
> Hi, Sometimes no news is Good news.I have found in the past many groups
> have their Ups and Downs. It should not be a Sign that the Group is dead,
> it's resting like We all do or should. I'm busy,steady,but Happy.
> Billy Horne
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> On Friday, April 25, 2014, Harry Wass <[email protected]>
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> Elizabeth Gilmore <[email protected]> Apr 25 10:17AM -0700  
> 
> What is the address for posting? I hae a few novice questions to ask the
> cloud... thanks Beth
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> Melissa Kacalanos <[email protected]> Apr 25 01:35PM -0400  
> 
> I've recently realized that most emails from this and other lists wind up in 
> my junk folder here at yahoo mail. If this is happening to others, that would 
> put a damper on conversations. 
>  
> I also suspect that Facebook has taken over a large part of the internet 
> conversation niche, although it's not ideal. There's a great, very active 
> Elizabethan Costuming group there, for instance, but the members often 
> complain about the awkward search function. They're all still there, though. 
> If there's a Facebook hg group as active as this email list used to be, I 
> haven't found it. 
>  
> Melissa the Loud
> Performing at the Georgia Renaissance Festival this spring. 
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> Leonard Williams <[email protected]> Apr 25 04:53PM -0400  
> 
> I've not been much of correspondent (more a lurker), but I've always
> found the list to be a good source of all kinds of related information:
> technical problems, playing technique, music sources, gigs, etc. I hope
> it hasn't gone by the wayside.
>  
> Regards,
> Leonard Williams
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> Alden Hackmann <[email protected]> Apr 25 03:28PM -0700  
> 
> I think the list is doing just fine. We have often experienced periods of
> relative quiet in the past and then things pick up. I think that spring is
> a time of year when we all have a lot happening. Also, we are maturing as
> a group of players and most of us have a pretty good grasp of the basics
> and beyond so things are not quite as urgent as they were when we first
> started the list. In addition, social media takes up time and energy
> so........Things are okay, just keep talking about the events you are
> involved in with the instrument and the list will stay active and healthy.
>  
> Cali Hackmann
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>  question about strings and tuning
> Norm Sohl <[email protected]> Apr 25 05:28PM  
> 
> I've always treasured this list in particular as a source of excellent 
> technical advice - so here is a technical question. 
>  
> My instrument is currently tuned G/C with the two chanters tuned to the 
> typical g’. Since one of the chanters broke, I’ve been thinking of replacing 
> it with a string that would sound an octave below the g’ to get a richer 
> sound. 
>  
> so far the viola string I purchased is too large to fit in the tailpiece, and 
> I am reluctant to enlarge the hole without further discussion of the topic - 
> so, what do you all think? Is this a reasonable modification, are there good 
> strings I should be considering, are there better ways to get a lower sound 
> (like a different tuning entirely)?
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> Graham Whyte <[email protected]> Apr 25 07:06PM +0100  
> 
> A Savarez medium viola g ? wound on stabilon string (ref 733M) is actually 
> slightly thinner than a gut g'
>  
> It works reasonably well but not superbly
>  
> I use hand made NRI wound strings at my choice of weight (also thinner than 
> gut g')
>  
> They are close wound silver plated copper wound on gut (Colum 5, 68 thou)
>  
> Not cheap but superb rich sound, play perfectly all the way to the top of 
> octave 2
>  
> Having octave chanters is great, you get 3 different melody sounds
>  
> Graham
>  
> On 25/04/14 18:28, Norm Sohl wrote:
>  
> I've always treasured this list in particular as a source of excellent 
> technical advice - so here is a technical question.
>  
> My instrument is currently tuned G/C with the two chanters tuned to the 
> typical g'. Since one of the chanters broke, I've been thinking of replacing 
> it with a string that would sound an octave below the g' to get a richer 
> sound.
>  
> so far the viola string I purchased is too large to fit in the tailpiece, and 
> I am reluctant to enlarge the hole without further discussion of the topic - 
> so, what do you all think? Is this a reasonable modification, are there good 
> strings I should be considering, are there better ways to get a lower sound 
> (like a different tuning entirely)?
>  
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> Bruno Fournier <[email protected]> Apr 25 02:18PM -0400  
> 
> Use a a viola G wound string, crystal core.. works very well
>  
> Bruno
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> Alden Hackmann <[email protected]> Apr 25 12:31PM -0700  
> 
> I like to use a Tomastik Vision violin g. It is fairly short and will not
> work with some of the longer scale length instruments, but works on all of
> ours and most of the commonly made French instruments.
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> ----Cali
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> Arle Lommel <[email protected]> Apr 25 11:07PM +0200  
> 
> Others have answered your question about string types, but to answer your 
> other question about modifications there is an easy and absolutely 
> non-invasive solution to your problem: you can always tie a short extension 
> of a lighter string (or even fishing line) to the end of the string (really 
> easy with a ball-end string if you have one) and then run that through the 
> tailpiece. It needs to be short, but as long as you don’t have the silk 
> overwound part of the string past the bridge, you’ll be fine.
>  
> If you have a ball-end you simply feed the light string through ball and then 
> feed both ends of the lighter string through the hole in the tail piece and 
> knot them as appropriate after they are through the hole. If that doesn’t 
> make sense, let me know and I can make you a drawing (it’s super simple).
>  
> The best knots to do this depend on the type of string end (and string 
> material) you’re dealing with, but as long as you can securely grab the 
> string with your lighter piece of string and run the extension through the 
> tailpiece, you should be fine. I’ve done this a number of times with no 
> problem.
>  
> I’d also second the recommendations for octave tuning. My own instrument has 
> three chanterelles, and is tuned g g’ d’’. I don’t use the d’’ very much, but 
> the combination of all three sounds fantastic for certain kinds of music. (I 
> did an arrangement of Granados’ Spanish Dance No. 2 where the three together 
> is just fantastic). In my playing I tend to treat the different chanter 
> strings the way an organist would treat different stops: by selecting them I 
> have up to seven timbre combinations I can use for different things.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Arle
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>  Gurdy by Robert Mandel available
> Arle Lommel <[email protected]> Apr 25 09:22AM -0700  
> 
> I have information on a hurdy-gurdy by Robert Mandel for sale. For some 
> reason I cannot post information about it to the list: I've tried twice and 
> both times it simply vanished. If someone is looking for a unique gurdy 
> from a well-known maker, let me know and I'll email you more details. And 
> maybe later my posts will show up if it's just a matter of Alden 
> authorizing it.
>  
> -Arle
>  
> Rob <[email protected]> Apr 25 01:06PM -0700  
> 
> hi all
> here is a blog post that includes a sound clip / more photos to come!
>  
> http://hurdygurdyweekly.blogspot.com/2014/04/for-sale-renaissance-vielle-by-robert.html
>  
> cheers!
> Rob Cherwink
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> On Apr 25, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Arle Lommel wrote:
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>  music sources
> Elizabeth Gilmore <[email protected]> Apr 25 12:13PM -0700  
> 
> Hi all, I am not ty]ied to sheet music to learn tunes.. but i would like
> to collect addresses of places where good hg music could be found... I am
> interested in medieval, elizabethan, english country, celtic (french,
> irish, breton, welsh) , french canadian types of music...
>  
> any suggestions? they can be video or sheet music...thanks!!
> has this hg for some time, and just havent gotten started on it.(I think Im
> a little intimidated by it...)
>  
> Beth Gilmore
>  
>  sticky keys
> Elizabeth Gilmore <[email protected]> Apr 25 10:41AM -0700  
> 
> Hello all.. I bought a hg recently, it was made brand new for me... some of
> the wooden keys are binding on the hole that they slice through... is it
> okay to apply a small bit of parafin wax to them to help them slide? Or..
> what do you use? or suggest?
>  
> Geoff Turner <[email protected]> Apr 25 06:42PM +0100  
> 
> Graphite pencil is what I would recommend.
>  
> Geoff Turner (uk)
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> Subject: [HG-new] sticky keys
>  
> Hello all.. I bought a hg recently, it was made brand new for me... some of
> the wooden keys are binding on the hole that they slice through... is it
> okay to apply a small bit of parafin wax to them to help them slide? Or..
> what do you use? or suggest?
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> Elizabeth Gilmore <[email protected]> Apr 25 10:44AM -0700  
> 
> Geoff... as in "pencil"? can I just color it a bit with a pencil? Beth
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> Bruno Fournier <[email protected]> Apr 25 01:55PM -0400  
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> HB pencil, you need graphite, not parrafin...
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> Bruno
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> Scott Gayman <[email protected]> Apr 25 10:57AM -0700  
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> Use a soft lead pencil or a standard yellow type nothing harder. Graphite for 
> pencils is cut with clay to harden it so softer is better (less clay)
> Rub it on the key just in front of the key slot in the keybox. Do so for both 
> front and rear slots. You may want to push in firmly on the key and rub some 
> on the key inside of the keybox as well as the key end that sticks out the 
> back.
> Use it pretty liberally but don't get it all over everything. Only add it to 
> the portion of the key that actually goes through the slot when you play.
> If the sticking persists you may need to remove the key and sand it down a 
> bit. They swell and contract with the weather, especially those that aren't 
> made from ebony or rosewood.
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> Scott Gayman <[email protected]> Apr 25 10:58AM -0700  
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> Agreed no wax of any type.
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