looking for a hurdy gurdy maker or seller in spain. I am in Madrid ... Any contacts? thanks
[email protected] On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:36 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Today's topic summary > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/topics > > - All quiet on the list <#1459b07fa1bee614_group_thread_0> [11 Updates] > - question about strings and tuning <#1459b07fa1bee614_group_thread_1>[5 > Updates] > - Gurdy by Robert Mandel available <#1459b07fa1bee614_group_thread_2>[2 > Updates] > - music sources <#1459b07fa1bee614_group_thread_3> [1 Update] > - sticky keys <#1459b07fa1bee614_group_thread_4> [6 Updates] > > All quiet on the > list<http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/t/b307be4dffaa42c2> > > Arle Lommel <[email protected]> Apr 25 04:49AM -0700 > > I'm curious what's happened to the group here. It's now almost six > weeks > since the last post and this used to have many posts a day. Have > people > moved to other venues (e.g., Facebook) or has interest just simply > dropped > off? I know some of the “old timers” moved on a while back, but we > used to > get great discussions about all sorts of technical questions and > playing > technique here. > > Best, > > Arle > > > > > Ulrich Joosten <[email protected]> Apr 25 01:53PM +0200 > > I’m still alive’n’kickin’, Arle. As you said: at the moment it is > quiet. Me personally I am very busy with other things (e.g. promoting my > book „Der Weg des Spielmanns“ that just was publisehd) or making music with > my band. So this is at least a „sign of life“ on the list. Are you still > located in Berlin? > > Cheers, > Uli > > > > > > > > Arle Lommel <[email protected]> Apr 25 01:54PM +0200 > > Yep, still in Berlin, at least through July (and, we hope, another > year). > > -Arle > > > > > > > Ulrich Joosten <[email protected]> Apr 25 02:03PM +0200 > > Great, Arle, > > if you happen to come to Cologne, let me know! > > Have a great time and a nice weekend! > > Best, > Uli > > > > > > DEREK LOFTHOUSE <[email protected]> Apr 25 06:30AM -0600 > > combination of things I think > There is (at least one) a facebook group. Its fairly busy, but not the > depth of technical info and discussions that used to occur here. > Alot of the posts here used to originate with people connected with > the Over the Water festival, after the last one in 2010 most of those > people seemed to lose interest/drift away/move on to other things. > I know there used to be a UK based list also, i never joined it so I > cant tell you if it has died also. > > The death of this group isnt unique though,the wooden flute, irish > music and northumbrian pipes chat groups have also basically vanished also. > Other groups i am in have also moved to different venues. > > Derek > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arle Lommel" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 5:49:16 AM > Subject: [HG-new] All quiet on the list > > > I'm curious what's happened to the group here. It's now almost six > weeks since the last post and this used to have many posts a day. Have > people moved to other venues (e.g., Facebook) or has interest just simply > dropped off? I know some of the “old timers” moved on a while back, but we > used to get great discussions about all sorts of technical questions and > playing technique here. > > > Best, > > > Arle > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "hurdygurdy" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy > > The rules of posting, courtesy, and other list information may be > found at http://hurdygurdy.com/mailinglist/index.htm . To reduce spam, > posts from new subscribers are held pending approval by the webmaster. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "hurdygurdy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout . > > > > > Harry Wass <[email protected]> Apr 25 11:24PM +1000 > > Maybe too many questions too much talk takes the magic out of things > what > do you think? > > > -- > Harry Wass > <http://medieval.instruments.googlepages.com> > [email protected] > > > > > Billy Horne <[email protected]> Apr 25 07:39PM +0300 > > Hi, Sometimes no news is Good news.I have found in the past many groups > have their Ups and Downs. It should not be a Sign that the Group is > dead, > it's resting like We all do or should. I'm busy,steady,but Happy. > Billy Horne > > On Friday, April 25, 2014, Harry Wass <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > > > > Elizabeth Gilmore <[email protected]> Apr 25 10:17AM -0700 > > What is the address for posting? I hae a few novice questions to ask > the > cloud... thanks Beth > > > > > > > Melissa Kacalanos <[email protected]> Apr 25 01:35PM -0400 > > I've recently realized that most emails from this and other lists wind > up in my junk folder here at yahoo mail. If this is happening to others, > that would put a damper on conversations. > > I also suspect that Facebook has taken over a large part of the > internet conversation niche, although it's not ideal. There's a great, very > active Elizabethan Costuming group there, for instance, but the members > often complain about the awkward search function. They're all still there, > though. If there's a Facebook hg group as active as this email list used to > be, I haven't found it. > > Melissa the Loud > Performing at the Georgia Renaissance Festival this spring. > > > > > > > > Leonard Williams <[email protected]> Apr 25 04:53PM -0400 > > I've not been much of correspondent (more a lurker), but I've always > found the list to be a good source of all kinds of related information: > technical problems, playing technique, music sources, gigs, etc. I hope > it hasn't gone by the wayside. > > Regards, > Leonard Williams > > > > > > > Alden Hackmann <[email protected]> Apr 25 03:28PM -0700 > > I think the list is doing just fine. We have often experienced periods > of > relative quiet in the past and then things pick up. I think that > spring is > a time of year when we all have a lot happening. Also, we are maturing > as > a group of players and most of us have a pretty good grasp of the > basics > and beyond so things are not quite as urgent as they were when we first > started the list. In addition, social media takes up time and energy > so........Things are okay, just keep talking about the events you are > involved in with the instrument and the list will stay active and > healthy. > > Cali Hackmann > > > > > > question about strings and > tuning<http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/t/c970b0be87974e62> > > Norm Sohl <[email protected]> Apr 25 05:28PM > > I've always treasured this list in particular as a source of excellent > technical advice - so here is a technical question. > > My instrument is currently tuned G/C with the two chanters tuned to > the typical g’. Since one of the chanters broke, I’ve been thinking of > replacing it with a string that would sound an octave below the g’ to get a > richer sound. > > so far the viola string I purchased is too large to fit in the > tailpiece, and I am reluctant to enlarge the hole without further > discussion of the topic - so, what do you all think? Is this a reasonable > modification, are there good strings I should be considering, are there > better ways to get a lower sound (like a different tuning entirely)? > > > > Sent from Windows Mail > > > > > Graham Whyte <[email protected]> Apr 25 07:06PM +0100 > > A Savarez medium viola g ? wound on stabilon string (ref 733M) is > actually slightly thinner than a gut g' > > It works reasonably well but not superbly > > I use hand made NRI wound strings at my choice of weight (also thinner > than gut g') > > They are close wound silver plated copper wound on gut (Colum 5, 68 > thou) > > Not cheap but superb rich sound, play perfectly all the way to the top > of octave 2 > > Having octave chanters is great, you get 3 different melody sounds > > Graham > > On 25/04/14 18:28, Norm Sohl wrote: > > I've always treasured this list in particular as a source of excellent > technical advice - so here is a technical question. > > My instrument is currently tuned G/C with the two chanters tuned to > the typical g'. Since one of the chanters broke, I've been thinking of > replacing it with a string that would sound an octave below the g' to get a > richer sound. > > so far the viola string I purchased is too large to fit in the > tailpiece, and I am reluctant to enlarge the hole without further > discussion of the topic - so, what do you all think? Is this a reasonable > modification, are there good strings I should be considering, are there > better ways to get a lower sound (like a different tuning entirely)? > > Sent from Windows Mail > > -- > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "hurdygurdy" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy > > The rules of posting, courtesy, and other list information may be > found at http://hurdygurdy.com/mailinglist/index.htm. To reduce spam, > posts from new subscribers are held pending approval by the webmaster. > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "hurdygurdy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > Bruno Fournier <[email protected]> Apr 25 02:18PM -0400 > > Use a a viola G wound string, crystal core.. works very well > > Bruno > > > > > > > Alden Hackmann <[email protected]> Apr 25 12:31PM -0700 > > I like to use a Tomastik Vision violin g. It is fairly short and will > not > work with some of the longer scale length instruments, but works on > all of > ours and most of the commonly made French instruments. > > ----Cali > > > > > > > Arle Lommel <[email protected]> Apr 25 11:07PM +0200 > > Others have answered your question about string types, but to answer > your other question about modifications there is an easy and absolutely > non-invasive solution to your problem: you can always tie a short extension > of a lighter string (or even fishing line) to the end of the string (really > easy with a ball-end string if you have one) and then run that through the > tailpiece. It needs to be short, but as long as you don’t have the silk > overwound part of the string past the bridge, you’ll be fine. > > If you have a ball-end you simply feed the light string through ball > and then feed both ends of the lighter string through the hole in the tail > piece and knot them as appropriate after they are through the hole. If that > doesn’t make sense, let me know and I can make you a drawing (it’s super > simple). > > The best knots to do this depend on the type of string end (and string > material) you’re dealing with, but as long as you can securely grab the > string with your lighter piece of string and run the extension through the > tailpiece, you should be fine. I’ve done this a number of times with no > problem. > > I’d also second the recommendations for octave tuning. My own > instrument has three chanterelles, and is tuned g g’ d’’. I don’t use the > d’’ very much, but the combination of all three sounds fantastic for > certain kinds of music. (I did an arrangement of Granados’ Spanish Dance > No. 2 where the three together is just fantastic). In my playing I tend to > treat the different chanter strings the way an organist would treat > different stops: by selecting them I have up to seven timbre combinations I > can use for different things. > > Best, > > Arle > > > > > Gurdy by Robert Mandel > available<http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/t/8ce13999b3888451> > > Arle Lommel <[email protected]> Apr 25 09:22AM -0700 > > I have information on a hurdy-gurdy by Robert Mandel for sale. For > some > reason I cannot post information about it to the list: I've tried > twice and > both times it simply vanished. If someone is looking for a unique > gurdy > from a well-known maker, let me know and I'll email you more details. > And > maybe later my posts will show up if it's just a matter of Alden > authorizing it. > > -Arle > > > > > Rob <[email protected]> Apr 25 01:06PM -0700 > > hi all > here is a blog post that includes a sound clip / more photos to come! > > > > http://hurdygurdyweekly.blogspot.com/2014/04/for-sale-renaissance-vielle-by-robert.html > > cheers! > Rob Cherwink > > The Hurdy Gurdy Weekly • #HGWeekly > http://tinyurl.com/HGWeekly > > • facebook ( you are invited! / invite your friends! ): > https://www.facebook.com/HurdyGurdyWeekly > > • youtube: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLQpoaUGjfVnEPX7HbjVmZw/ > > • blog: http://hurdygurdyweekly.blogspot.com/ > > • twitter: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HGWeekly&f=realtime > > * to contribute to the paper: please tweet URLs using #HGWeekly, like > and post to the page on facebook, or email (see newsletter or blog) - > please share your events and favorite articles, photos, and videos! ~ thank > you - please enjoy! > > > On Apr 25, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Arle Lommel wrote: > > > > > music sources<http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/t/49e5b3fa761386df> > > Elizabeth Gilmore <[email protected]> Apr 25 12:13PM -0700 > > Hi all, I am not ty]ied to sheet music to learn tunes.. but i would > like > to collect addresses of places where good hg music could be found... I > am > interested in medieval, elizabethan, english country, celtic (french, > irish, breton, welsh) , french canadian types of music... > > any suggestions? they can be video or sheet music...thanks!! > has this hg for some time, and just havent gotten started on it.(I > think Im > a little intimidated by it...) > > Beth Gilmore > > > > sticky keys<http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/t/860d12d8d0877b7a> > > Elizabeth Gilmore <[email protected]> Apr 25 10:41AM -0700 > > Hello all.. I bought a hg recently, it was made brand new for me... > some of > the wooden keys are binding on the hole that they slice through... is > it > okay to apply a small bit of parafin wax to them to help them slide? > Or.. > what do you use? or suggest? > > > > > Geoff Turner <[email protected]> Apr 25 06:42PM +0100 > > Graphite pencil is what I would recommend. > > Geoff Turner (uk) > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Elizabeth Gilmore<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: 25/04/2014 18:41 > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [HG-new] sticky keys > > Hello all.. I bought a hg recently, it was made brand new for me... > some of > the wooden keys are binding on the hole that they slice through... is > it > okay to apply a small bit of parafin wax to them to help them slide? > Or.. > what do you use? or suggest? > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "hurdygurdy" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy > > The rules of posting, courtesy, and other list information may be > found at http://hurdygurdy.com/mailinglist/index.htm. To reduce spam, > posts from new subscribers are held pending approval by the webmaster. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "hurdygurdy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > Elizabeth Gilmore <[email protected]> Apr 25 10:44AM -0700 > > Geoff... as in "pencil"? can I just color it a bit with a pencil? Beth > > > > > > > Bruno Fournier <[email protected]> Apr 25 01:55PM -0400 > > HB pencil, you need graphite, not parrafin... > > > Bruno > > > > > > > Scott Gayman <[email protected]> Apr 25 10:57AM -0700 > > Use a soft lead pencil or a standard yellow type nothing harder. > Graphite for pencils is cut with clay to harden it so softer is better > (less clay) > Rub it on the key just in front of the key slot in the keybox. Do so > for both front and rear slots. You may want to push in firmly on the key > and rub some on the key inside of the keybox as well as the key end that > sticks out the back. > Use it pretty liberally but don't get it all over everything. Only add > it to the portion of the key that actually goes through the slot when you > play. > If the sticking persists you may need to remove the key and sand it > down a bit. They swell and contract with the weather, especially those that > aren't made from ebony or rosewood. > > Scott > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > > > Scott Gayman <[email protected]> Apr 25 10:58AM -0700 > > Agreed no wax of any type. > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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