Arle

All the standard European modes are modes are given on p. 82 of The Hurdy-gurdy 
Method.
Michael

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> Ulrich Joosten <[email protected]> Jul 27 06:50PM +0200  
> 
> Dear all,
>  
> finde enclosed a new version of the Power Point presentation Hurdy-gurdy 
> scales.
>  
> I translated the notation to the English system (and hope I made no 
> mistakes). U fortunately the Libre Office program is totally crap - I was not 
> able to give names to the slides and I could not enter hyperlinks. I treid 
> several times and it drove me mad because after
> saving and re-opening the file all hyperlinks were gone. If somebody is able 
> to help out - any hint is very welcome.
>  
> Please, if somebody wants to proofread: this would be very good. 
>  
> Oh, yes, I deleted all the redundand information of the first version (that 
> means: not used notes were grayed in the first version, now I totally removed 
> them, so one can concentrate just on the relevant notes).
>  
> Your thoughts are very welcome.
>  
> And: I enclose a pdf verison.
>  
> Have fun,
> cheers,
>  
> Ulrich Joosten <[email protected]> Jul 27 08:58PM +0200  
> 
> Hello Tom,
>  
> I know that the hyperlinks do not work in the English version. I copied the 
> German version (which was done in MS office) within Libre Office. Then I 
> reworked all the entries to translate them into English. When everything was 
> done I realised that Libre Officee does not store hyperlinks - I really tried 
> hard to do so. It was very frustrating: I re-entered all the links. Then I 
> saved the file. As I re-opened it all the links were gone.
>  
> So - I decided to send it anyway. Even if you do not have the functionality 
> to navigate through the file - at lest you have the information.
>  
> Once anybody can he give me a hint how to get the links working I will do so.
>  
> Any help is welcome.
>  
> Best,
> Ulrich 
>  
>  
> Arle Lommel <[email protected]> Jul 27 09:56PM +0200  
> 
> Hi Ulrich,
>  
> I apologize for taking a few days to respond. We just moved (within Berlin) 
> and I’ve had a lot of work to do.
>  
> This is a valuable resource, especially as many musicians have no formal 
> training in these aspects of music theory and I think it can really help 
> expand their horizons. There have been times I would have used something like 
> this when I’m trying to remember what a particular mode is.
>  
> One of my first thoughts is that this would make an ideal online (HTML) 
> resource, since that solves the clickable problems. A lot of the complex 
> things I mention below could be easily addressed in a single web page using 
> JQuery + Javascript to allow tunings and modes to be changed while staying in 
> one page. While I couldn’t do it in the next month, I’d actually be 
> interested in programming an online single-page version of what you’ve done 
> that would calculate and show different modes for any tuning people choose. 
> We should talk in mid-September or so when some of my pressing projects will 
> be over.
>  
> But for now, I’ve looked though the latest version and have a few minor 
> comments.
>  
> To emphasize the connection between the parts, you might consider adding 
> “(Aeolian)” after “major” and “(Aeolian)” after “minor” in the slides that 
> you start with.
> Slide 5: typo, says “C major” instead of “C minor”
> Slide 14: typo, “Inonian” instead of “Ionian”
> Slide 18: still in German
> After 19: Would you add Locrian as well? It’s not commonly used, but for 
> completeness it would make sense to include it. Similarly, if you ever want 
> to get more ambitious, there are a lot of other modes that could be of 
> interest. The obvious ones to add would be the melodic minors (although the 
> fact that they are actually a pair of matched modes for ascending and 
> descending passages would complicate describing them). Going a bit further 
> afield, scales such as the Double harmonic scale 
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_harmonic_scale 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_harmonic_scale>), which is one I use a 
> lot in my playing, might be interesting.
> Slide 20: this one I find interesting because the numbering is the reverse of 
> piano practice. Given the centrality of piano fingering for many musicians, I 
> think it might make sense to reverse the numbers, i.e, 1 = index, 2 = middle, 
> 3 = ring. (And I’d note that this is French/older U.S. style for piano; for 
> full correspondence with current U.S. and German numbering, I think 1 would 
> equal the thumb. but I think this doesn’t make sense for your purposes).
> More generally, the Weichselbaumer instrument you have has an unusual tuning. 
> If you move this to a web resource, you could have an option to show it with 
> the Weichselbaumer (open F), C/G (open G), and G/D (open D) tunings for the 
> various scales. Then people could adapt it to their instruments. Of course 
> this adds some complexity to what you are doing, but in the web interface I’m 
> thinking of it would be really simple…
>  
> I’ll try to look at it a little more in coming days and get back to you with 
> anything else, but I hope the above helps.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Arle
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