* Robert Weiner <rsw...@gmail.com> [2019-08-26 14:23]: > Sure. I am pretty familiar with Doug’s work and happy to add more > NLS/Augment features as needed.
Yesterday I was researching the tabulated-list-mode and it was fairly rapid to develop the fundament of some kind of HyperScope[1] for Emacs[2]. I am basing that on the SQL database. As otherwise I would end up in a mess of text files or data pieces. It has features from the mother of all demos[3], it is like a menu-tree hypertext system that can link to anything. Hyperbole has Emacs Lisp functions, so I can now include link from Hyperbole to HyperScope like (hyperscope-action ID) where ID is node ID. It can link to multiple Org files, and Org files can link back to HyperScope. And that is why I asked about moving the .hypb file, as that means I could for example enter text from within a database, but text which is not on file system, and if such text has the corresponding argument to be the contents of the .hypb file, I could enter the world of hyperlinking through Hyperbole. Greedy linking and quick browsing is very important. My needs lay in making straightline teaching for clients and straightline teaching for staff members. The experience have shown me that if people do not have the order in front of them, they will learn slow. If there is order of subjects to learn, they will learn faster, the relation between pieces of information is important. If I would just give them books they would never finish when lacking the understanding of relations between pieces of knowledge. My workflow before was that I had to explain so many links, videos, things, personally, some videos are long, but shall only show certain period of the video, that is what I call greedy hyperlinking, maybe I am wrong with my English. It is also envisioned by Engelbart[4] to allow such hyperlinking, it is certainly useful. Then it is easier to teach person to show the exact period from 2:30 minutes and seconds to 20:50 minutes and seconds of the video, than opening a video, and browsing or explaining to person how to browse to certain section, and on distance it becomes vague, so it can be person is watching something else than I meant that person should be watching. Reading specific paragraphs of specific page in a PDF is hardly supported by majority of PDF readers, I wish it could be, but I In fact every piece of information that can be reviewed by computer shall offer the option to kill[5] the greedy link for the AUGMENT Journal[6] so that such link can be used from any other system, such as Hyperbole. I wonder if Emacs Doc View offers such facility. As for Hyperbole, it lacks the actual link name, not only link. As links only appear often ugly, especially if there are long path names, the meaning of the link is not always for the user, it is there for the action of the user, not for his observation, not necessarily. Just as links in Org mode, so Hyperbole shall have links with their names shown, not the links itself. Jean Footnotes: [1] https://open.tube/videos/watch/086dbf07-a49f-42f6-b3f9-39997de66014 [2] http://hyperscope.org/ [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJDv-zdhzMY [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Engelbart [5] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Killing.html [6] http://dougengelbart.org/content/view/137/000/