Dear Rafa,

Apologies for the delay, it took me some time to read through the draft. I 
think there is a good potential to cross leverage our work. I’ll just initiate 
a separate thread to explore this.

Regards,
Saurabh

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From: I2nsf [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rafa Marin Lopez
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:31 PM
To: Saurabh Chattopadhyay - ERS, HCL Tech <[email protected]>
Cc: Kaushik Datta - ERS, HCL Tech <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 
Kohei Shiomoto <[email protected]>; Gabriel Lopez Millan 
<[email protected]>; Liushucheng (Will) <[email protected]>; Rafa Marin Lopez 
<[email protected]>; Sowmini Varadhan <[email protected]>; King, Daniel 
<[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [I2nsf] Queries on i2nsf's intended coverage over multi-domain 
opsec automated provisioning

Dear Saurabh:

Thank you for the clarification and the pointer. Although I haven’t had the 
opportunity of taking a look to your I-D carefully (I will do it), I have seen 
that you refer to ABFAB and AAA.

Maybe this I-D we wrote a year ago may be of your interest as well, since it is 
related with AAA infrastructures and the establishment of security associations 
between AAA agents.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-marin-sdnrg-sdn-aaa-mng-00

"This document describes the management of Authentication,
   Authorization and Accounting (AAA) infraesctrutures by means of a
   Software-Defined Network (SDN) controller and raises the requirements
   to support this service.  It considers the management of AAA routing
   and the establishment of security associations between AAA entities.”

Best Regards.

> El 27 nov 2016, a las 5:36, Saurabh Chattopadhyay - ERS, HCL Tech 
> <[email protected]> escribió:
> 
> Dear Rafa,
>  
> Thanks for pointing us to this draft. We now have a better understanding on 
> how i2nsf WG would likely address the dynamic key distribution requirements.
>  
> We, on the other hand, are in the process of defining the control plane 
> architecture to be integrated with SDN Controllers, focusing on automated 
> registration, certificate issuance and dynamic trust establishment between 
> gateways/SFs positioned across different security domains. These will be the 
> pre-cursory requirements for dynamic key distribution, if Gateways/SFs don’t 
> already share the trust relationship. Thus, we don’t see any overlap per say 
> between what we are working on and this particular work, but these are 
> certainly adjacent to each other. We’ll perhaps request for your review once 
> we are done with our part, and incorporate your comments, if you would have 
> any.
> If you would like to take a look at the current version of our draft, you can 
> find it here – 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chattopadhyay-sdnrg-multi-party-sdn-trust/.
>  
> Thanks again for your kind response.
>  
> Warm Regards,
> Saurabh
>  
> From: Rafa Marin-Lopez [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 11:29 PM
> To: Saurabh Chattopadhyay - ERS, HCL Tech 
> <[email protected]>
> Cc: Rafa Marin-Lopez <[email protected]>; 
> [email protected]; [email protected]; King, 
> Daniel <[email protected]>; Liushucheng (Will) 
> <[email protected]>; Kaushik Datta - ERS, HCL Tech 
> <[email protected]>; Kohei Shiomoto 
> <[email protected]>; Gabriel Lopez Millan <[email protected]>; 
> Sowmini Varadhan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [I2nsf] Queries on i2nsf's intended coverage over 
> multi-domain opsec automated provisioning
>  
> Dear Saurabh:
> 
> Regarding your comment about "a dynamic key distribution mechanism to NSFs”, 
> we would like to point you out to our work regarding an SDN-based IPsec Key 
> management, where key distribution is performed to establish IPsec security 
> associations. We also consider the case of having two (or multiple) SDN 
> controllers . See Section 10.2.  Gateway-to-gateway under different SDN 
> controllers. Here, an interface between SDN controllers will be required.
> 
> Although it is focused on IPsec, other security associations may be 
> considered in the future. 
> 
> Is this related with what you had in mind?
> 
> Best Regards.
> El 18 nov 2016, a las 7:57, Saurabh Chattopadhyay - ERS, HCL Tech 
> <[email protected]> escribió:
>  
> Dear Authors,
>  
> I and my co-author are currently working on SDN& NFV operation security 
> related area, and developing a draft in SDN Research Group. We wanted to 
> understand from you on certain aspects of i2nsf problem statement and its 
> intended coverage, thus writing this mail.
>  
> From the draft (draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-04), we 
> understood that you have acknowledged the challenges associated to 
> scenarios where NSFs being present in heterogeneous administrative 
> domains, and also have considered developing a dynamic key 
> distribution mechanism to NSFs. In this context, we have the following 
> queries –
> 
> 
> ·         In certain scenarios, dynamic key distribution appears to be a 
> requirement for endpoints and other (non-security) functions as well. Do you 
> intend to develop the mechanism in a generic fashion that can be leveraged by 
> other entities as well?
> ·         Specially for multi-domain scenarios, dynamic key distribution may 
> need some pre-cursory requirements to comply with, these are mostly around 
> setting up inter-domain trust and certificate chaining. Do you consider these 
> to be pre-provisioned, before the i2nsf specified mechanism starts off?
>  
> We’ll look forward to your response on this.
>  
> Warm Regards,
> Saurabh
>  
> 
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