John,
Thanks for your clear explanation.
We authors will reflect your comments in our revision.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 8:22 AM, John Strassner <straz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It is hard to tell due to lack of specificity, but likely it is NOT a
> correct use of the term.
> The relationship is backwards - a tenant does NOT control policies.
> Rather, an
> admin domain (i.e., a policy domain) control policies, and tenants exist
> in an
> admin domain.
>
> This is what I meant in my brief comment.
>
> regards,
> John
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com>
> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much for the interpretation of “Policy Domain”.
>>
>>
>>
>> Based on the reply from Paul, the term “Policy Domain” in their draft is
>> about a “Family (or a group) of Tenants”.
>>
>> Is it a proper to use “Policy domain” as a term referring to the domain
>> applying to a family or a group of tenants? Say a group of Departments
>> (tenants) belonging under one organization?
>>
>>
>>
>> If not, can you suggest a better term?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* John Strassner [mailto:straz...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:08 PM
>> *To:* Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com>
>> *Cc:* i2nsf@ietf.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [I2nsf] what does the term "Policy Domain" commonly refer
>> to? (was RE: WG Adoption call for https://tools.ietf.org/html/dr
>> aft-jeong-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-04
>>
>>
>>
>> A "Policy Domain" is an administrative domain in which a set of Policies
>> are used to ensure that managed entities in that domain behave in a desired
>> manner. Policies can be used for configuration, monitoring, access control,
>> and other behavior.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note that this is a standard term in the academic literature.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>>
>>
>> Since you are the policy expert, what does “Policy Domain” commonly refer
>> to?
>>
>> Can “Policy domain” be one policy applying to a set of tenants? Or one
>> policy applying to a set of geographic regions? Or Policy domain being a
>> set of policies?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* John Strassner [mailto:straz...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:47 PM
>> *To:* Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com>
>> *Cc:* i2nsf@ietf.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [I2nsf] WG Adoption call for
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jeong-i2nsf-consumer-facin
>> g-interface-dm-04
>>
>>
>>
>> IMHO, the purpose of a WG adopting a draft is to acknowledge that the
>> draft is a good starting point for the work that WG wants to accomplish. To
>> be perfectly clear, I am NOT objecting on the completeness of the document.
>> Rather, I am objecting on the technical correctness of the starting point.
>>
>>
>> I do NOT feel that the proposed documents represent a good starting
>> point. Ignoring things that can be easily fixed (e.g., grammar), there are
>> a host of problems, such as:
>>
>>    - what, exactly, is this draft trying to do? I thought I would see
>> YANG for policy rules sent over the Consumer-Facing Interface.
>>      Instead, I see the name of the interface, whose first element is
>> multi-tenancy, that also contains policies? Policies do not care
>>      about multi-tenancy. They do care about domains. The organization of
>> the YANG is incorrect.
>>
>>    - sec 4: in the ieft-i2nsf-cf-interface module
>>
>>       - why is multi-tenancy at the top of the tree? Shouldn't a DOMAIN
>> be able to have multiple tenants?
>>
>>       - why does a domain have an authentication-method? First, multiple
>> such methods should be able to be used. Second, how would a domain know
>> what an authentication method even is?
>>
>>       - why is tenant a sibling of domain, and not a child?
>>
>>       - why is domain a leaf within policy-tenant? This should be a
>> reference, and why doesn't domain have a reference to policy-tenant?
>>
>>       - policy roles have nothing to do with multi-tenancy - why are they
>> here?
>>
>>
>>
>>  I could go on, but even the above means that the rest of the YANG will
>> be wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> Therefore, the document is NOT a good starting point, and will NOT
>> accelerate the path to getting a good RFC.
>>
>>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The authors of I2NSF Consumer-Facing Interface YANG Data Model
>>
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jeong-i2nsf-consumer-facin
>> g-interface-dm-04
>>
>>
>>
>> Have requested working group adoption of this draft.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please bear in mind that WG Adoption doesn’t mean that the draft current
>> content is ready, WG Adoption only means that it is a good basis for a
>> working group to work on.
>>
>>
>>
>> While all feedback is helpful, comments pro or con with explanations are
>> much more helpful than just "yes please" or "no thank you".
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Linda & Yoav
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> John
>>
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