I2NSF WG, 

Since the comments from Tom Petch haven't been addressed, we can't complete the 
WGLC for draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-16. 
Agree with Tom, the WG needs to reach consensus if it is necessary for the  
draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm to be consistent with the 
draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-facing-interface-dm. 

Thank you, 
Linda Dunbar

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From: I2nsf <[email protected]> On Behalf Of t petch
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To: Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [I2nsf] WGLC for draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-16

On 02/03/2022 14:40, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> Patrick and I are finalizing the revision of the NSF-Facing Interface 
> YANG Data Model Draft this week.

If I read it aright, the cut-off for updated I-D for the upcoming IETF is next 
Monday. after which the system is in purdah for a while.  The IETF website 
might tell me about the latter (if it had a search  engine:-)

Tom Petch




> After this revision, we will reflect the comments from IESG on this 
> Consumer-Facing Interface YANG Data Model Draft.
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> Best Regards,
> Paul
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 9:31 PM t petch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 17/02/2022 17:00, Linda Dunbar wrote:
>>> Hello Working Group,
>>>
>>> Many thanks to the authors to address all the comments from YANG 
>>> Doctor
>> review.
>>>
>>> This email starts a three-weeks Working Group Last Call for
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>> I think that this is premature.  As ever, there is substantial 
>> overlap with other I-D in the set, notably nsf-facing, and, as ever, 
>> the two I-D do things differently which I think can only confuse.  If 
>> there is a reason for the differences, then that needs calling out 
>> IMHO; at the moment it seems arbitrary, such as which ...art reviewer last 
>> saw the I-D!
>>
>> Further, nsf-facing has just attracted a large number of comments 
>> from IESG Review, many if not most of which apply here.  I think it 
>> wrong for the IESG to be asked to do the same work all over again so 
>> I think that the IESG comments on nsf-facing need resolving with the 
>> IESG first and then the agreed solution - I expect that most of the 
>> comments by the IESG will be accepted - can be incorporated into this I-D.
>>
>> Choice of protocols, reference for protocols, way of specifying 
>> ranges of numbers, indeed way of specifying at all, string language, 
>> volte,
>> RFC793 redundant, all those comments by Alexey on lack of clarity, 
>> Rob's comments on identity descriptions, example labelling and so on.
>>
>> Tom Petch
>>
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