Hi,

Regarding the level of detail, I think it is appropriate for allowing security 
vendors to build on it. My only concern could be the possibility of extending 
the model if more detail becomes required, but that comes with YANG factory 
settings…

Be goode,

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On 26/7/22, 09:14, "I2nsf on behalf of Susan Hares" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Paul - Thank you for your kind words!

WG members:

We should chat if you-all feel the same way as I do.  It is important for 
Roman, Yoav, and Linda to hear if you think we’ve got this level of detail 
right.  The customer facing interface data model is a new concept in creating 
something that a certain class of security vendors can build on.

Do you think we got it correctly?  I’m a co-author so – I’m biased.  This yang 
model could be a lot more detailed or less detailed.

Would it help to discuss specifics or have you heard enough?  Either way Roman, 
Yoav, and Linda need to hear about it.

Thanks!
Sue



From: Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 9:07 AM
To: Susan Hares <[email protected]>
Cc: Roman Danyliw <[email protected]>; Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>; 
Yoav Nir <[email protected]>; [email protected]; skku-iotlab-members 
<[email protected]>; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [I2nsf] need more review and support to close the WGLC for 
draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm


Sue,
Thanks for your thorough review and evaluation on the Consumer-Facing Interface 
YANG Data Model:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-22

As Sue said, the YANG module of this Consumer-Facing Interface data model has 
been proved
through many IETF I2NSF hackathon projects.
This time my SKKU team demonstrated the mature functionality of Security Policy 
Translator
over this Consumer-Facing Interface YANG data model.

- Slides of IETF-114 I2NSF Hackathon Project
  
https://github.com/IETF-Hackathon/ietf114-project-presentations/blob/main/IETF114-I2NSF-Hackathon-Project-20220724.pdf

- Github Repository of IETF-114 I2NSF Hackathon Project
  https://github.com/jaehoonpaul/i2nsf-framework/tree/master/Hackathon-114/react

- Demo Video Clip of IETF-114 I2NSF Hackathon Project
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y6xLtUXBzw

I believe that this draft is ready to move toward the IESG evaluation.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 7:56 AM Susan Hares 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Linda and I2NSF:

Review of draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-inteface-dm.

Status: Ready to publish

Textual Comments:  The write-up for this data model has excellent clarity in 
the English text.
Review Question: Right level of detail?  Yes – Excellent choices on detail.

One of the questions from the Security Ads have asked about this model is 
whether the level of detail in this model is sufficient.  My review of this 
model is that it hits a good balance for a consumer-facing model.  The 
challenge in the customer-facing model is to provide enough information to 
handle the grouping of information into a common set of primitives.   This 
group appears to be at the right level of detail.

Most of the I2NSF enabled security devices are network security devices that 
have a combination of functions (routing, firewall, accounting) as part of 
network access and control.  These devices will be found on the edge of network 
provider or within enterprise networks.  If these devices are successful there, 
this technology could move toward data centers.  However, IMHO I do not thing 
that will be first.

The Yang module for the customer interface is a challenging creation because it 
must be specific enough to group the information but leave some flexibility to 
be tailored for different deployments.  From my experience in creating a 
routing/switch/firewall, this appears to have the right balance.

Yang module checks:  All my manual check on this Yang module did not find a 
problem.  I did not run it through automatic checks.

Note for AD:  Several of the original reviews for this module included reviews 
of the hackathon code with feedback.  I have been aware of the hackathon early 
results.  I believe several people gave early feedback based on the prototypes. 
  If you did not see list discussion, it was because the discussions occurred 
in review of prototype code.

I hope this helps.

Sue Hares



From: I2nsf <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf 
Of Linda Dunbar
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 1:17 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [I2nsf] need more review and support to close the WGLC for 
draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm


I2NF WG,

draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm WGLC was inconclusive due to lack 
of support and some LC comments not properly addressed. There appeared to be 
limited reviews of the document during the WGLC
See the discussion history: [I2nsf] WGLC for 
draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-16<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/i2nsf/MFOohjnJ9fbylLB9eyccMRhrp04/>

To proceed to publication more reviews and support from the WG for publication 
is needed.
We really appreciate more people reviewing the document, especially the people 
who are not the authors.

Thank you
Linda Dunbar
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