+1 for Netconf for the I2RS protocol and YANG for the modeling language.

On 4/18/14 3:04 PM, "Jeff Tantsura" <[email protected]> wrote:

>+1 for Netconf/YANG for the i2rs protocol and for YANG as
>the modeling language.
>
>
>Cheers,
>Jeff
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Jan Medved   (jmedved)" <[email protected]>
>Date: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:59 PM
>To: Dean Bogdanovic <[email protected]>, Jamal Hadi Salim
><[email protected]>
>Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Edward Crabbe <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [i2rs] consensus on I2RS protocol and model
>
>>Cisco is also implementing Netconf - it¹s available on XR today, and it
>>will be available on other platforms as well.
>>
>>For OpenDaylight, we chose Yang as the IDL to describe internal and
>>external APIs in the controller and so far it has served its purpose
>>really well. 
>>
>>Also, as Tom pointed out, Netconf and Restconf have also been implemented
>>in ODL. I¹d like to stress that we not only have multiple
>>Netconf/Restconf
>>implementations from multiple vendors (Brocade, Juniper, Cisco, just to
>>mention those on this thread), but have multiple open source
>>implementations as well. In addition to ODL, there is libnetconfd and a
>>few others.  ODL / libnetconfd interop testing is done in the ODL
>>regression test suite.  Now, since there are multiple independent open
>>source implementations, we¹ve got a good ecosystem for implementation of
>>new Netconf/Restconf/Yang features that may be required to meet i2rs¹s
>>needs (if the need to evolve the protocols/language arises).
>>
>>In short, +1 for Netconf/Restconf for the i2rs protocol and for Yang as
>>the modeling language.
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Jan
>>
>>
>>On 4/18/14, 6:17 AM, "Dean Bogdanovic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Jamal,
>>>
>>>Here are two criteria to be considered:
>>>1. technical
>>>2. commercial/business
>>>
>>>We can discuss pros and cons for both, but have to state that from
>>>business perspective for Juniper going with RESTCONF/YANG make more
>>>sense. We already built the Junos model in YANG and
>>>have or are in process of building needed tools. Same goes for RESTCONF.
>>>We have NETCONF implemented in Junos and are working on RESTCONF
>>>implementation.
>>>Many carriers adopted or are adopting NETCONF/YANG, are looking into
>>>RESTCONF as well, so this looks like a low hanging fruit from business
>>>perspective.
>>>
>>>Looking at technical aspect, unless there is a very compelling reason
>>>(and there might be, but I'm not aware of it), don't see reason to
>>>switch
>>>from RESTCONF and YANG.
>>>We can find out down the line that RESTCONF/YANG was the wrong way to
>>>go,
>>>but that can be always changed. From my perspective it looks right
>>>today.
>>>
>>>Just to be clear, I vote for RESTCONF/YANG adoption for i2rs.
>>>
>>>Dean
>>>
>>>On Apr 18, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Jamal Hadi Salim <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, since nobody is saying anything i'll bite.
>>>> How would you like for this discussion to proceed?
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Edward Crabbe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Dear I2RSers,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  At the last I2RS WG meeting there was a great deal of conversation
>>>>> regarding selection of both modeling language and underlying
>>>>>transport
>>>>> protocol.  Consensus at the time was to make use of Yang and (NetConf
>>>>>or
>>>>> RestConf) (unclear).
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And i believe the view, as correctly presented by you, is for folks to
>>>>go back
>>>> and make educated decisions by actually getting knowledgeable about
>>>> the different views presented. "Consensus" that you described above
>>>> to me looked like  a pageant popularity contest not based on anything
>>>> technical ("who likes contestant in the blue shirt? please cheer for
>>>>them").
>>>> 
>>>> In my opinion i dont think the requirements are clear.
>>>> 
>>>> Will that get the crickets stop chirping?
>>>> 
>>>> cheers,
>>>> jamal
>>>> 
>>>>>  Before coming to a final consensus, we'd like to give people
>>>>>adequate
>>>>>time
>>>>> to review source material, marshall arguments and discuss on the
>>>>>mailing
>>>>> list.  To this end, we're asking that interested parties do just this
>>>>>over
>>>>> the course of the next ~two weeks. Following that period, on 4/28,
>>>>>we'll be
>>>>> initiating a consensus call that will last an additional two weeks,
>>>>>with the
>>>>> aim of converging modeling language / protocol by Friday, 5/9.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The consensus call should also generate proposals for any material
>>>>>changes
>>>>> required to the underlying protocols.  These proposals in turn will
>>>>>form the
>>>>> basis for a later draft including gap analysis and said changes.
>>>>>Those
>>>>> strongly in favor of one protocol over another should be prepared to
>>>>> contribute to this analysis.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> best,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  -ed
>>>>> 
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