+1 for Netconf/YANG for the i2rs protocol and for YANG as
the modeling language.


Cheers,
Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: "Jan Medved   (jmedved)" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:59 PM
To: Dean Bogdanovic <[email protected]>, Jamal Hadi Salim
<[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Edward Crabbe <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [i2rs] consensus on I2RS protocol and model

>Cisco is also implementing Netconf - it¹s available on XR today, and it
>will be available on other platforms as well.
>
>For OpenDaylight, we chose Yang as the IDL to describe internal and
>external APIs in the controller and so far it has served its purpose
>really well. 
>
>Also, as Tom pointed out, Netconf and Restconf have also been implemented
>in ODL. I¹d like to stress that we not only have multiple Netconf/Restconf
>implementations from multiple vendors (Brocade, Juniper, Cisco, just to
>mention those on this thread), but have multiple open source
>implementations as well. In addition to ODL, there is libnetconfd and a
>few others.  ODL / libnetconfd interop testing is done in the ODL
>regression test suite.  Now, since there are multiple independent open
>source implementations, we¹ve got a good ecosystem for implementation of
>new Netconf/Restconf/Yang features that may be required to meet i2rs¹s
>needs (if the need to evolve the protocols/language arises).
>
>In short, +1 for Netconf/Restconf for the i2rs protocol and for Yang as
>the modeling language.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>Jan
>
>
>On 4/18/14, 6:17 AM, "Dean Bogdanovic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Jamal,
>>
>>Here are two criteria to be considered:
>>1. technical
>>2. commercial/business
>>
>>We can discuss pros and cons for both, but have to state that from
>>business perspective for Juniper going with RESTCONF/YANG make more
>>sense. We already built the Junos model in YANG and
>>have or are in process of building needed tools. Same goes for RESTCONF.
>>We have NETCONF implemented in Junos and are working on RESTCONF
>>implementation.
>>Many carriers adopted or are adopting NETCONF/YANG, are looking into
>>RESTCONF as well, so this looks like a low hanging fruit from business
>>perspective.
>>
>>Looking at technical aspect, unless there is a very compelling reason
>>(and there might be, but I'm not aware of it), don't see reason to switch
>>from RESTCONF and YANG.
>>We can find out down the line that RESTCONF/YANG was the wrong way to go,
>>but that can be always changed. From my perspective it looks right today.
>>
>>Just to be clear, I vote for RESTCONF/YANG adoption for i2rs.
>>
>>Dean
>>
>>On Apr 18, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Jamal Hadi Salim <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, since nobody is saying anything i'll bite.
>>> How would you like for this discussion to proceed?
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Edward Crabbe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Dear I2RSers,
>>>> 
>>>>  At the last I2RS WG meeting there was a great deal of conversation
>>>> regarding selection of both modeling language and underlying transport
>>>> protocol.  Consensus at the time was to make use of Yang and (NetConf
>>>>or
>>>> RestConf) (unclear).
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> And i believe the view, as correctly presented by you, is for folks to
>>>go back
>>> and make educated decisions by actually getting knowledgeable about
>>> the different views presented. "Consensus" that you described above
>>> to me looked like  a pageant popularity contest not based on anything
>>> technical ("who likes contestant in the blue shirt? please cheer for
>>>them").
>>> 
>>> In my opinion i dont think the requirements are clear.
>>> 
>>> Will that get the crickets stop chirping?
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> jamal
>>> 
>>>>  Before coming to a final consensus, we'd like to give people adequate
>>>>time
>>>> to review source material, marshall arguments and discuss on the
>>>>mailing
>>>> list.  To this end, we're asking that interested parties do just this
>>>>over
>>>> the course of the next ~two weeks. Following that period, on 4/28,
>>>>we'll be
>>>> initiating a consensus call that will last an additional two weeks,
>>>>with the
>>>> aim of converging modeling language / protocol by Friday, 5/9.
>>>> 
>>>> The consensus call should also generate proposals for any material
>>>>changes
>>>> required to the underlying protocols.  These proposals in turn will
>>>>form the
>>>> basis for a later draft including gap analysis and said changes.
>>>>Those
>>>> strongly in favor of one protocol over another should be prepared to
>>>> contribute to this analysis.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> best,
>>>> 
>>>>  -ed
>>>> 
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