Dean,

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Dean Bogdanovic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jamal,
>
> Majority of the people are using today NC/RC/YA (because it is available) and 
> it provides necessary >functionality. Many people, including myself, didn't 
> find any issues so far with it and we believe it is >the right choice.

You have NOT implemented the spec to justify that technical arguement.
As an example, In your last posting you said latency and throughput
was important.
Jan claims they are irrelevant. Is it a requirement? My answer and your is yes.

> If you remember, at the beginning I mentioned two criteria, technical and 
> business.

I know "business" reasoning is a BIG driver; unfortunately often made
to appear like the
reasoning is technical (Ive said before i appreciate your sincerity).
Dean, I think you should look at this with "bussiness" outside the picture.
If you were to be given a chance to get this right from a technical
pov - what would
you do? There is an "E" in IETF (no "B"); yes i am trying my best to
be pragmatic
and not ignoring the "B" - but only when all is equal that becomes a
clear decider.
To be noted again: I am not even pushing for ForCES, but it definetely
aint netconf
or restconf - sorry.

> NC/RC/YA are satisfying both of them for lot of people in this group.
> You are trying to explain why ForCES is better then NC/RC/YA and I appreciate 
> it, but it is not better >for my case and why should I go ahead and implement 
> ForCES on the company platform, when >there is no request from the market and 
> the existing tools are working satisfactory.
>

sure - so what is wrong then with letting you go and do restconf and
me do ForCES.
Lets just have the "market" decide? All i am asking for is the process
be followed or
have the tyranny of the majority take over.

> People do not have to explain their vote, they can just cast it, as it is 
> their opinion.
>

There is a difference between a vote and a discussion. I believe we
are in discussion
mode right now. In discussion mode people voice opinions not cast a ballot.

cheers,
jamal

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