Right - while there may be unique access models for the data which reflect
unique I2RS or NETCONF requirements, I don¹t see why the domain specific
(e.g., OSPF) model content would be different.

On 9/29/14, 6:57 PM, "Dean Bogdanovic" <[email protected]> wrote:

>To keep with the existing topic of the discussion (OSPF model), here is
>my question:
>
>Why would you have two different OSPF models on a single device? That
>device has certain OSPF capabilities that are implemented and are
>represented by a data model. Configuration can be created based on it and
>written into a data store. Once you have a base model, you can decide to
>create other model, but it can be only subset of the base model. There is
>nothing preventing you to create a private model, but it has to be based
>on the base model.
>Why do you need different model for I2RS? I strongly believe that a
>single data model is needed, but having different config stores to save
>different configuration parts. In my mind, I2RS has to provide a good
>mechanism that allows non-vendor owner of the device to define what can
>be changed on the device. The 3rd party should be able to decide that all
>of device capabilities can be changed through I2RS (I would then argue
>why do you really want to do that) or they can decide to go as minimal as
>changing ACLs, but allowing only ACE to be added/deleted from ACL (which
>makes much more sense IMO).
>In I2RS we can focus on "light weight templates", that fills in specific
>stuff across multiple config snippets. L3VPN is such an example. It would
>fill in configs in BGP, routing instances, interfaces. It would all be
>based on the standard models.
>Another thing could be a proprietary data model like vCPE. Device owner
>creates private "light weight templates" and it allows I2RS clients to
>manage vCPEs. The proprietary vCPE template is a subset of device base
>model. Based on vCPE model, configuration is created and stored in a data
>store, which ever is supported by the device and decided by the owner.
>Now we have to figure out error handling, what happens when you populate
>a template, and the commit fails due to underlying config issue, how do
>you propagate such things back to the upper layer? IMO, all the minimum
>required configuration should be copied into ephemeral datastore, so if
>something breaks in the underlying config store, it is still viable, and
>there are no interdependencies between data stores. This is how the
>running config is created
>
>(cfg A || cfg eph) = cfg running
>
>Base config and ephemeral config are overlaid, ephemeral is see through
>to the base config, but device can function correctly by reading most of
>the config from ephemeral data store to certain extent.
>
>Dean
>
>On Sep 29, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Jeffrey Haas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:41:09PM +0000, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
>>> I would hope that we have a single model for NETCONF and I2RS or at
>>>least a core OSPF model that contains the large intersection.
>> 
>> That's why option 4 was suggested.  Given that you now have a body of
>>work
>> representing config for OSPF and knowing that I2RS may want to add state
>> into it, please take a look the option 4 discussion and see if it's a
>>good
>> fit.
>> 
>> A reminder to the wider WG: "Option 4" was simply the line of discussion
>> from the netmod interim.  As seen in its thread it's either not fully
>> explained well or there's still confusion among the interim participants
>> what it actually means.  It's not settled that this is what we'll be
>>doing,
>> but it is currently the method that has received the most discussion.
>> 
>> -- Jeff
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