On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 04:03:02AM -0400, Alia Atlas wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 03:33:14AM -0400, Alia Atlas wrote:
> > > Juergen,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 06:06:44PM -0500, Alia Atlas wrote:
> > > > > Given the excellent progress that the WG has been making - due to
> > your
> > > > work
> > > > > and interest, I have been working on a simple rechartering with Sue
> > and
> > > >
> > > > Here is the diff related to topology:
> > > >
> > > > -  o The ability to extract information about topology from the
> > network.
> > > > -    Injection and creation of topology will not be considered as an
> > > > initial work item.
> > > > +  o The ability to extract information about topology from the
> > network.
> > > > +     These models will be based on a generic topology model to support
> > > > +     multiple uses. Injection and creation of topology will not be
> > > > considered
> > > > +     as a work item.
> > > >
> > > > The first and third sentences are both about 'reading topology'. Does
> > > > this imply that the generic model will also be limited to 'reading
> > > > topology'? Or will the generic model also allow create topology?
> > >
> > > It's an interesting question.  What use-cases do you see where
> > > writing the topology is appropriate?
> >
> > If you want to do service management, you need to describe (configure)
> > the desired service topology. This is largely an interface to the
> > network manager (called a controller these days).
> >
> 
> True - I see that as needing significantly more information, but having a
> generic topology model to build upon would be useful.
>

The question was whether the generic topology is config true, config
false or both. The proposed charter text is not clear.
 
> > > If one thinks of reading the topology as reading operational state,
> > > aren't read-write config and read-only operational recommended to be
> > > separated in YANG models (at least for now)?
> >
> > Yes, we love to separate config state from operational state. But this
> > has nothing to do with the scope of the work item added to the I2RS
> > charter.
> 
> 
> It is relevant if I2RS defines the operational topology for reading and
> there isn't an active need for writing the topology.
> 
> If there is an active need - presumably because of interest in modeling
> interfaces to a network manager - then I can massage the text.  I don't
> see a reason to have separate drafts.
>

It would be nice to have this scope issue clarified so other WGs know
what can be expected.

Thanks.

/js

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