The general YANG Doctor opinion is that all drafts defining YANG modules should 
have examples, since the examples both aid in understandability and sometimes 
reveal modeling issues that are otherwise hard to spot.  To underscore this 
point further, the YANG Doctors even discussed introducing some form of 
automatic "coverage" analysis, whereby tooling could e.g., ensure that at least 
50% of the YANG module is represented by [valid] examples.

I'm "fine" with the draft not having examples only from a "I leave it to the 
WG" perspective, nothing more.

Thanks,
Kent


On 11/12/17, 9:47 AM, "Susan Hares" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

Alex:

Welcome to Singapore.  Wow!  Today’s going to be a long day for you.  Perhaps 
we should talk after you take a short nap.

#1 definition - Section 3 still defines datastore uniquely, although you do 
point to the revised datastores.  It would be best to make the same reference 
in section 3.

#2 No examples – Please confirm by asking Kent Watsen on list regarding the 
examples.   Otherwise, we’ll cycle on this when we get to the IESG.

Also – please see the comments that were unresolved from Lada’s review of the 
L3 topology.

Sue Hares


From: Alexander Clemm [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 8:40 PM
To: [email protected]; Susan Hares
Cc: 'Kent Watsen'; [email protected]; [email protected]; 'Alia Atlas'
Subject: Re: [i2rs] WG LC on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo (9/27/2017 to 
10/11/2017) - WG Consensus declared by Chairs

Hi Sue, I just arrived in Singapore.
I did adopt the definition. This is addressed in -17.
I did not put the example per earlier email exchange and at the time Kent 
seemed to be fine with that?
Thanks, Alex
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On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 9:13 AM +0800, "Susan Hares" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Alex:

I had hoped to celebrate IETF-100 with submitting 
draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo-17 to the IESG.  However, there are still a 
few things to resolve from Kent Watens review 
(https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/i2rs/current/msg04501.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mail-2Darchive_web_i2rs_current_msg04501.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo&m=t8pOsw3tC3mILKdk134_MbPZFNVMLeervd-i6zRDV2o&s=UAV82_bxO-NUzQRpiHv9Tdv86055JtWw6Z_N4aEhiN8&e=>).

In reviewing draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo-17, I found the following things 
addressed:

1)       "ietf-network" uses prefix “nd”, should be “nw” and 
"ietf-network-topology" uses  prefix “lnk” should be “nt” or maybe “nwtp”.

2)       the groupings "link-ref" and "tp-ref" descriptions should indicate why 
they are defined but not used in these modules

3)       Both /nd:networks/network/network-id and 
/nd:networks/network/link/link-id are the key fields to their respective lists, 
but they are not the first nodes listed in the list.

In reviewing draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo-17, I do not find the following 
things address that Ken commented on:

1)       Kent’s comment: Use cases exist in appendix A, but yang examples do 
not exist.

Fix: Short examples could be put in Appendix A with each use case)

2)       Kent’s comment: The document defines its own "datastore" term, rather 
than import the term from revised-datastores.

Question: Section 3 still gives its own datastore definition.  Is there a 
reason I missed on this approach?
Could you wrap up these two issues today and submit a -18 to the IETF drafts?  
I’d love to chat today about these two issues.
Susan Hares
(shepherd/co-chair)

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