I'd like to introduce you to the revolutionary idea of a "website". It is so much more functional than this "wiki" thing olpc is so enamoured of. On a "website" there is a "homepage" with important "links" to things like "help" and "contact us" and "latest news". Someone with a 21st century job known as "web design" makes this "website" attractive and easy to use.
Of course dumping the information in a heap with no organization is probably better. You can always do a search on tags. Like the data store. Sorry for the snark, but really, these are solved problems. Carol Lerche On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I'm not sure if this should be an integrated part of the OS, or a > separate activity, but let me propose a view of the latter: > > Suppose we create a "Suggestion Box" activity, which offers a > streamlined interface for providing suggestions. Have the suggestions > all get sent to, for instance, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or, > if you want to split based on language, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Then we'll have a repository of all the feedback and suggestions that > come in readily accessible, archived, and searchable, and we can > discuss them "in place" on the lists, and break things out into trac > tickets as needed. > > As an addendum to this idea, I'd really like to see the Log activity > gain similar support, so that in addition to offering a view of logs, > it provided a way to send feedback reports, automatically including > necessary data such as serial number, build number, hardware, etc. > This would also make it really easy to attach logs to feedback. It > should be possible to send logs to the right people, according to a > URL in the activity.info file for each. > > Finally, if people are really ambitious, what we really need is this: > http://mydreamapp.com/contestants/view/kevincapizzi/idea/ . Call it > the "Discuss" activity. The idea is to create a simple streamlined > interface through which to interact with any online forum you > subscribe to. We could pre-populate this with our support forum, and > create forums for suggestions, logs, and other needs as well. This, I > feel, could be fantastic. > > - Eben > > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Christoph Derndorfer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mmmm, I know I'm being the cranky one here today but I can't be the > > only one thinking that IRC (or any activity based on it) isn't all > > great a solution. Even for an immediate stop-gap solution it sucks. A > > lot. > > > > As C.Scott mentioned we really need two solutions: a social one and a > > technological one. For the social one we need to get people to > > deployments. For the technical one we need to find the easiest possible > > way for people to get comments, suggestions, ideas, rants from wherever > > they are to this list and other appropiate places. > > > > Here's my current thinking: > > > > Screw the non-existant "Show me the code" functionality and turn this > > into "kick a developer's ass" button;-) > > > > Seriously, also with regard to the recent Windows XP in Peru > > announcement what we need to do is offer a competitive advantage to > > such a solution. I know I > > being a pain about a this but I truly believe that a well-established > > feedback-loop between deployments and developers is one of the key USPs > > here. > > > > At the end of the day this is of course a major decision in terms of > > Sugar Labs' scope. Personally, I'm still a fan of a very early message > > by Ivan K. which specifically asked for Sugar Labs to be more than > > "just" a software outfit... > > > > Anyway, 'nuff said for a day, > > Christoph > > > > Zitat von Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> All very good points. At the time, there were a number of issues we > >> hadn't resolved: what channel to default to ; what to do at the back > >> end in terms of manning the channel(s); what to do about language -- > >> not of the tool, but the discussion; (now that we have the Sugar > >> Control Panel, some of these are all less of an issue) etc. > >> > >> -walter > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:21 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Walter Bender > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> The XoIRC Activity was designed for exactly that. > >>> > >>> Can we dust it off and improve it then? It's not translated, it > >>> requires kids to type in obscure irc commands (/msg, etc), and there's > >>> no way to 'leave a suggestion' that persists. The title 'XoIRC' > >>> doesn't mean 'go here to get help or make a suggestion' in any > >>> language I know of. > >>> --scott > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ( http://cscott.net/ ) > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Christoph Derndorfer > > co-editor, olpcnews > > url: www.olpcnews.com > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > [email protected] > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- "The water won't clear up 'til we get the hogs out of the creek." -- Jim Hightower
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