On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Morgan Collett wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 14:19, Tomeu Vizoso <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 13:11, David Van Assche <[email protected]> wrote: >>> So... to log or not to log, that is the question.... ? >> >> What if everybody that has ever posted in a sugar mailing list and is >> against publishing logs explained here how if logs were public it >> would harm her/his ability to keep contributing? > > s/mailing list/IRC channel/ > > (others made this mistake in this thread too...) > >> I think we should not question their opinions, but as a community >> evaluate how making logs publics may harm our current contributors. > > I've always considered IRC as a public medium, with many lurkers who > may or may not be publishing the logs. Right now there are 75 logged > on to #sugar, many of which I've never seen participate. They could be > representing journalists, future employers, governments, skynet... > Making future, or past, logs available publicly would not harm me. > > When I first got involved in OLPC, things were changing so fast that > typically issues (like jhbuild failing) were raised and resolved on > IRC and never hit the mailing lists, so I used to read the #olpc and > #sugar scrollback on a daily basis. I learned a huge amount this way. > I no longer read everything(!) but often have a quick scan to see if > there was anything relevant to me. > > I think there are three options, going forward: > > #1. Publish the logs officially, hosted on a sugarlabs server and > linked from the wiki, for at least #sugar if not #sugar-meeting as > well. Explain that no other channels are officially logged in this > way, and that people are welcome to use (for example) > #sugar-meeting-offtherecord if they want to avoid their logs being > published. Or #no-you-cant-have-a-pony. > > #2. A community member, whether a Sugar Labs member or otherwise, > publishes logs at an unofficial location (including > people.sugarlabs.org, or a non sugarlabs domain). If nobody else does > #1 above or this #2, I'll probably do this at some point, unless #3 > below kicks in. > > #3. Sugar Labs officially bans logging the channels #sugar and/or > #sugar-meeting. > > OLPC never banned logging, but a couple of people asked me not to > publish logs when I first spun up xobot. Recently I think it was SJ, > but I can't find the reference, who said that the appropriate #olpc* > channels should be published as a resource.
#3 is basically impossible. And if even one person chooses #2, then we may as well save them the work by doing #1 anyway. My last word on the topic. :) --g -- Got an XO that you're not using? Loan it to a needy developer! [[ http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Exchange_Registry ]] _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
