On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Tomeu Vizoso<[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 06:29, David Van Assche<[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi there, >> This may seem like a bit of a premature email, but it comes in >> reference to questions I was asked at the guadalinex offices about >> adding Sugar to their distribution. They mentioned there is a lot of >> freedom as to what content and activitities/applications can be put >> into the distro, but not so much freedom when it comes to marketing, >> naming, base foundations, etc. Thats a shame because the name >> guadalinex really sucks :p > > I actually like the name quite a bit ;) > >> but its great because they are genuinenly >> interested in running sugar activities in guadalinex. > > That's great, but I'm not 100% sure that will benefit Sugar itself. > But happy to give it a try. > >> I explained that >> with the move to metacity this would be a possibility in the not too >> distant future (I hope I did not speak out of tone.) > > Well, with the metacity move, activities that behave badly in terms of > window sizing will be exposed and we'll be able to fix them. But I > don't think that's one of the biggest issues when running Sugar > activities out of Sugar. > > What we need right now is someone to give it a try with a very simple > activity and report back. Then we can identify the first wave of > issues and start working on that.
I had set up Turtle Art to be able to run outside of Sugar. It has a .desktop file and should install under the Applications/Education menu on the desktop. Or run it from the shell from turlteart.py. It has its problems: no access to the toolbar and no access to the journal or sharing. But it runs. >> There is also the >> very strong likeleyhood that they would use LTSP and iTalc as a method >> of distribution and control. The team I saw was MUCH bigger than I >> expected (a good 300 people working behind computers) and the >> interview process was highly formal, modern and professional. It even >> included a type of psych evaluation, although many of the questions >> were related to my experience in the field (logical) and what kind of >> tech we should be iImplementing today, so that in 5 years time we >> would be in the right playing field. They asked where I saw the distro >> and linux for education being in 5 years, which is an amazingly >> difficult question to answer. In fact, I'd love to hear some of your >> thoughts on that one... > > This is interesting, but would benefit from having it's own thread. > >> They also wondered how it was possible that I >> would take such a job for so little money, so I guess its not totally >> obvious to many people that tech in education is actually a lot of fun >> and worth being paid less for, than doing some boring sysadmin job >> that really does nothing more than fill the pockets of the company >> being worked for. Anyway, I really hope I get a positive answer soon, >> and when I do, the job they want me to take there is a kind of linux >> ambassador... that is to say, someone who connects up with the >> necesary folk and finds out whats happening and whats worth >> implementing in the land of education and linux... > > That's awesome, I bet is hard to convince politicians to fund 300 > engineers and at the same time play the upstream/downstream game. > Related interview: > > http://www.gnomejournal.org/article/72/working-with-upstream-an-interview-with-laszlo-peter > >> One thing is >> relatively sure... Sugar will be running on these roughly 1 million >> computers in one form or another.,.,., So the playing field just got a >> whole lot bigger... in fact, it would mean the xo would suddenly be a >> minority... lol For general information, though this is not very >> known, in sheer numbers, they are the biggest edu linux initiative in >> the world, and have been around for 6 years now. They seem to have >> bypassed many hurdles other such initiatives had and they say their >> schools are generally very happy. But, like all projects, they lack >> content... > > We need to help these projects get into contact with each other and > pool resources. > > Good luck, > > Tomeu > >> >> kind regards, >> David (nubae) Van Assche >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> [email protected] >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
