On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 14:42, Walter Bender<[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Tomeu Vizoso<[email protected]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 06:29, David Van Assche<[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> This may seem like a bit of a premature email, but it comes in >>> reference to questions I was asked at the guadalinex offices about >>> adding Sugar to their distribution. They mentioned there is a lot of >>> freedom as to what content and activitities/applications can be put >>> into the distro, but not so much freedom when it comes to marketing, >>> naming, base foundations, etc. Thats a shame because the name >>> guadalinex really sucks :p >> >> I actually like the name quite a bit ;) >> >>> but its great because they are genuinenly >>> interested in running sugar activities in guadalinex. >> >> That's great, but I'm not 100% sure that will benefit Sugar itself. >> But happy to give it a try. >> >>> I explained that >>> with the move to metacity this would be a possibility in the not too >>> distant future (I hope I did not speak out of tone.) >> >> Well, with the metacity move, activities that behave badly in terms of >> window sizing will be exposed and we'll be able to fix them. But I >> don't think that's one of the biggest issues when running Sugar >> activities out of Sugar. >> >> What we need right now is someone to give it a try with a very simple >> activity and report back. Then we can identify the first wave of >> issues and start working on that. > > I had set up Turtle Art to be able to run outside of Sugar. It has a > .desktop file and should install under the Applications/Education menu > on the desktop. Or run it from the shell from turlteart.py. > > It has its problems: no access to the toolbar and no access to the > journal or sharing. But it runs.
We have quite a bit of work until we can get it to work, but it's doable to have everything working out of the Sugar shell. Regards, Tomeu >>> There is also the >>> very strong likeleyhood that they would use LTSP and iTalc as a method >>> of distribution and control. The team I saw was MUCH bigger than I >>> expected (a good 300 people working behind computers) and the >>> interview process was highly formal, modern and professional. It even >>> included a type of psych evaluation, although many of the questions >>> were related to my experience in the field (logical) and what kind of >>> tech we should be iImplementing today, so that in 5 years time we >>> would be in the right playing field. They asked where I saw the distro >>> and linux for education being in 5 years, which is an amazingly >>> difficult question to answer. In fact, I'd love to hear some of your >>> thoughts on that one... >> >> This is interesting, but would benefit from having it's own thread. >> >>> They also wondered how it was possible that I >>> would take such a job for so little money, so I guess its not totally >>> obvious to many people that tech in education is actually a lot of fun >>> and worth being paid less for, than doing some boring sysadmin job >>> that really does nothing more than fill the pockets of the company >>> being worked for. Anyway, I really hope I get a positive answer soon, >>> and when I do, the job they want me to take there is a kind of linux >>> ambassador... that is to say, someone who connects up with the >>> necesary folk and finds out whats happening and whats worth >>> implementing in the land of education and linux... >> >> That's awesome, I bet is hard to convince politicians to fund 300 >> engineers and at the same time play the upstream/downstream game. >> Related interview: >> >> http://www.gnomejournal.org/article/72/working-with-upstream-an-interview-with-laszlo-peter >> >>> One thing is >>> relatively sure... Sugar will be running on these roughly 1 million >>> computers in one form or another.,.,., So the playing field just got a >>> whole lot bigger... in fact, it would mean the xo would suddenly be a >>> minority... lol For general information, though this is not very >>> known, in sheer numbers, they are the biggest edu linux initiative in >>> the world, and have been around for 6 years now. They seem to have >>> bypassed many hurdles other such initiatives had and they say their >>> schools are generally very happy. But, like all projects, they lack >>> content... >> >> We need to help these projects get into contact with each other and >> pool resources. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Tomeu >> >>> >>> kind regards, >>> David (nubae) Van Assche >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> [email protected] >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
