Caroline Meeks wrote:
> [...] snip!
> I agree with Daniel's
> question.  Sebastian, what is your theory of change here?  What do you think 
> we should do and why does doing it and doing it now as an official strategic 
> decision get us closer to having all the world's children use Sugar?

So well. I think I've explained my vision of SoaS already pretty well in 
the open letter. That was the long-term side of things.

Now it comes to what I think is important in a project. And that is - 
also - certainty and trust. Those are pretty important factors. For 
developers, as well as for users, to know where one stands.

I have asked for a reply on this question because it truly affects my 
work. I would like to know whether my work is needed in the way I'm 
doing it, whether it's appreciated, whether it's respected.

Wait, how do you measure this? Well, I think I've been doing quite a big 
amount of the SoaS work over the last year. I've been told the Sugar 
community was about people doing stuff, so I considered myself to be 
leading the SoaS effort at some point. So far so good. But if I'm 
leading an effort, I'd prefer to be *informed* about what's happening.

This starts with trademarking things (about which I haven't been 
informed), continues with the idea SL has of SoaS (just to be sure I 
don't waste my work) and ends with people using the name of the project 
I considered myself to be leading - without talking while planning it.

So. This is not about avoiding competition. Or about having a 
dictatorship. Or whatever. It's about providing a bit of certainty.

In my opinion, Sugar Labs has about four options how to act wrt SoaS.

(1) SL decides the current SoaS to be *the* SoaS and enforces the brand. 
(Did you know that you're able to lose a trademark when not enforcing 
it?) Exceptions could be granted by a trademark committee.

(2) SL decides to have more than one SoaS, basically allowing everybody 
to use the brand's name.

(3) SL decides not to do a distribution of Sugar and doesn't care about 
the naming of other projects, allowing everybody to use the name.

(4) SL decides not to do a distribution of Sugar and delegates this to 
*one* other project, probably in another project (Fedora, Ubuntu, TOS).

Those are the possibilities I can think of right now. There are probably 
more. I would just like to know where I'm investing my work in, since I 
am just a volunteer. I don't get money for this.

--Sebastian

> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Daniel Drake <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     2009/9/16 Daniel Drake <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>      > 2009/9/16 Sebastian Dziallas <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>      >> Let me rephrase again, to make things clear. I'd love to hear an
>      >> "official" answer on this. Soon.
>      >>
>      >> Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs
>     distributes a
>      >> Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?
>      >
>
>     and to answer a question with a question: how does the answer to this
>     affect your work? I can't immediately see its importance.
>
>     Daniel
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