On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Steve Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Walter Bender <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Kim Toufectis commented on my post [1] about online services: >> >> :Appreciative of the ideals upon which SugarLabs and OLPC formed, it’s >> deeply troubling to envision a commercial entity like FaceBook >> integrated into the Control Panel. >> >> :For a system in which a proprietary browser (Opera) or plugin (Adobe >> Flash) are controversial even as optional add-ons, can we really be >> headed for integrating a private corporation into the heart of the >> OS?This is very difficult to understand… >> >> My response: >> >> There are several issues raised by our proposal (none of this code has >> yet been reviewed and accepted): >> >> (a) Should Sugar facilitate integration with online services? > > +1 go to where the kids are. > >> (b) If so, should we do it in such a way that is service-provider >> agnostic? > > +1 > >> >> (c) Why specifically are we working on a Facebook plugin? >> >> There are certainly caveats: First, Facebook is not for children. > > Really? I know a lot of children on Facebook. Also the new Scratch 2.0 is > going to have a Share to: Facebook and Twitter, along with Youtube uploading > at some point. And look at the ages of Scratch users. > That said as a parents of four young ones (or as our kids call us "Ma and Pa > Luddite") we did our best to keep them off Facebook as long as possible. >
We need to tread lightly here. The FB terms of service require 13+ yrs. Our children are younger than that. Maybe the Scratch team thinks it is OK, but I am uncomfortable with encouraging children to violate the terms of service. That said, I suspect Facebook will address this issue at some point. Or some other web service provider. >> >> My intention is to provide a mechanism for teachers, not children. > > Why not both? Isn't our goal to engage kids? Social networking is where they > are. Of course once its there its there for both. Agreed, but see above. > >> Second, Facebook does not provide a place for file (project) sharing, >> just a place for talking about projects. We will need other services >> for that (dare I say, Google Drive). > > File sharing would be wonderful. +2 > > It would also be nice to be able to "embed" a running project in a web page > (when we get to the point where the projects can run in a web page :) > > Stephen > > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
