Walter, Thanks didn't know about the age restriction. I can use this on my two youngest for a while to keep them off :) I also posted to Scratch to get their feedback.
Stephen On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Walter Bender <[email protected]>wrote: > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Steve Thomas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Walter Bender <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Kim Toufectis commented on my post [1] about online services: > >> > >> :Appreciative of the ideals upon which SugarLabs and OLPC formed, it’s > >> deeply troubling to envision a commercial entity like FaceBook > >> integrated into the Control Panel. > >> > >> :For a system in which a proprietary browser (Opera) or plugin (Adobe > >> Flash) are controversial even as optional add-ons, can we really be > >> headed for integrating a private corporation into the heart of the > >> OS?This is very difficult to understand… > >> > >> My response: > >> > >> There are several issues raised by our proposal (none of this code has > >> yet been reviewed and accepted): > >> > >> (a) Should Sugar facilitate integration with online services? > > > > +1 go to where the kids are. > > > >> (b) If so, should we do it in such a way that is service-provider > >> agnostic? > > > > +1 > > > >> > >> (c) Why specifically are we working on a Facebook plugin? > >> > >> There are certainly caveats: First, Facebook is not for children. > > > > Really? I know a lot of children on Facebook. Also the new Scratch 2.0 > is > > going to have a Share to: Facebook and Twitter, along with Youtube > uploading > > at some point. And look at the ages of Scratch users. > > That said as a parents of four young ones (or as our kids call us "Ma > and Pa > > Luddite") we did our best to keep them off Facebook as long as possible. > > > > We need to tread lightly here. The FB terms of service require 13+ > yrs. Our children are younger than that. Maybe the Scratch team thinks > it is OK, but I am uncomfortable with encouraging children to violate > the terms of service. That said, I suspect Facebook will address this > issue at some point. Or some other web service provider. > > >> > >> My intention is to provide a mechanism for teachers, not children. > > > > Why not both? Isn't our goal to engage kids? Social networking is where > they > > are. Of course once its there its there for both. > > Agreed, but see above. > > > > >> Second, Facebook does not provide a place for file (project) sharing, > >> just a place for talking about projects. We will need other services > >> for that (dare I say, Google Drive). > > > > File sharing would be wonderful. +2 > > > > It would also be nice to be able to "embed" a running project in a web > page > > (when we get to the point where the projects can run in a web page :) > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org >
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