On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm sorry Sebastian, yes I should have been more clear about which Sebastian > :-) > > At the time, Sugar was perceived as being only available on OLPC XOs, so our > effort was designed to show that it was available for other platforms. > Indeed, our claim has always been that it was hardware-agnostic (on Mac > using virtualization), cf. our press releases (sl.o/press). And, SoaS as a > marketing concept was meant to be distro-agnostic too (SuSE...), a position > fought tooth and nail by the Fedorans by the way. > > Pre-tablets, when small netbooks sales were exploding, Windows was dominant > on PCs but ran poorly or not at all on netbooks and moreover there was an > installation barrier for Windows on GNU/Linux netbooks. We were interested > in reaching the 92% or so of teachers using Windows and widening Sugar > availability on machines with pre-installed GNU/Linux (all 2% or so of > them). Microsoft and Intel worked quickly to block GNU/Linux netbooks by > pressuring OEMs to build faster machines, then tablets arrived and killed > off netbooks. > > It's unfortunate that Sugar was not fully embraced by the GNU/Linux distros > who missed a great opportunity in the education market where Microsoft had > and has weaknesses, but that has been a symptom of free software projects > struggling with strategic initiatives while concentrating on technical > aspects.
How does Sugar on Ubuntu (DXU) and Sugar on Tablets (DX experimental) affect this equation for Sugar Labs? > Dismal marketing has contributed to dismal desktop market share > (Microsoft's well-documented maneuvers played a role too of course). > > Installation: As Peter has mentioned, SoaS can be used for installation on a > target PC, this is documented in the wiki. > > Concerning translations, language selection was available in at least > several versions of SoaS, I remember switching French and US locale and > keyboard demoing SoaS at an Educatec-Educatice convention in Paris. I have > no doubt that solutions are possible, but do remember that Peter has been > continuing SoaS work singlehandedly for some time now. > > Looking forward, I see a dual challenge for Sugar Labs: supporting the XO > installed base (including hopefully keeping XO-4 availability alive), and > transitioning to the wild new world of handheld devices. > > Sean > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> > wrote: >> >> >> El 06/11/13 17:35, Sean DALY escribió: >> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> But you have for a long time refused to actually even market SoaS! >> >> >> That's right, at the time SoaS became an official Fedora spin, Mel and >> Sebastian decided to take over marketing, which included coming up with >> unmarketable names, linking with Fedora announcements, and opening a Fedora >> hosted minisite (the "home" of SoaS), none of which was done with any >> consultation of the SL marketing team. >> >> Please try to include last names, you mean Sebastian Dzallas, original >> developer of "Sugar On A Stick". >> >> Now that we're on the topic... the concept "Sugar On A Stick" has several >> problems. >> >> 1.- It suggests it's the only possible Sugar OS on a USB. >> 2.- It suggests it's not a serious OS to be installed on a computer. >> 3.- It's impossible to translate. >> 4.- It suggests it's not regular GNU/Linux, with availability of the >> Myriad other GNU/Linux educational tools. >> >> Regards, >> Sebastian Silva >> R+D SomosAzúcar >> Sugar Labs Perú >> @icarito >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep