Forgot to mention, we also need to get access to [email protected], since I suspect new membership applications have gone stale for a long time now. (see [1])
[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members#Applying_for_membership El 10/03/15 a las 15:05, Sebastian Silva escibió: > Hi Caryl, > Thanks for co-volunteering with me! > > As I see it, what needs to be done is: > 1- Tally up a list of current Sugar Members's emails (starting > from here <http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List>) > 2- Setup a survey to ask if they want to stay active, voting > members (I propose to use the LimeSurvey software. Infrastructure team > can set it up and it's easy to use.) > 3- Get familiar with Selectricity, our current voting mechanism. > Get access to the voting machine. > 4- Improve the voting experience. For instance, /en español > /instructions are a must in this community. > 5- Determine in consensus /when/ an election will take place. > > If we can be formally appointed, I'm certain you will be able to > contribute to every step of the process. > > Regards, > Sebastian > > El 10/03/15 a las 14:18, Caryl Bigenho escibió: >> Hi All >> >> For heaven's sake! No wonder we are always stalled. If it will help, >> I'll do the election. It can't be that much work. I have no conflicts >> of interest. What would I need to do? >> >> Caryl >> >> > From: [email protected] >> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:54:09 -0500 >> > To: [email protected] >> > CC: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [IAEP] Will anything change this time? >> > >> > Adam, >> > >> > To your "conflict of interest" concern and with all the love to my >> > husband, I can only respond that I believe I have enough skills and >> > merit by myself. >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > Laura V >> > >> > >> > >> > 2015-03-10 13:31 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva <[email protected]>: >> > > Well, >> > > It's 2015 and we are all hackers here. >> > > >> > > Your question is only a technical question, and the whole process >> has always >> > > been/forever will be open for scrutiny. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Sebastian >> > > >> > > El 10/03/15 a las 13:25, Adam Holt escibió: >> > > >> > > If Sebastian becomes the Elections Committee which is fine with >> me, how do >> > > we avoid a more-than-Clintonesque conflict-of-interest with his >> wife running >> > > for office, and himself running the election? >> > > >> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Sebastian Silva >> <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Yes, >> > >> Exactly this is my proposal, from my prior email: >> > >> >> > >> I have volunteered to be member of elections committee since Oct >> 2014. >> > >> I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by the >> board, as >> > >> per the governance model. >> > >> >> > >> Therefore, the board would have to appoint me formally. >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> Sebastian >> > >> >> > >> El 10/03/15 a las 13:01, Gonzalo Odiard escibió: >> > >> >> > >> Would be good if someone volunteer to integrate the elections >> committee >> > >> to replace Luke. >> > >> >> > >> Gonzalo >> > >> >> > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Walter Bender >> <[email protected]> >> > >> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> Sebastian, >> > >>> >> > >>> The election was discussed in public SLOB meetings. We made public >> > >>> decisions with opportunity for public input. If you want to ask the >> > >>> board to revisit its decisions, that is fine. Please try to be >> > >>> concrete in your proposal. >> > >>> >> > >>> regards. >> > >>> >> > >>> -walter >> > >>> >> > >>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Silva >> > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>> > Actually, the governance model says nothing about election at >> the end >> > >>> > of >> > >>> > every year, nor about shortages of candidates. It does say: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Sugar Labs shall be governed by an Oversight Board, >> consisting of seven >> > >>> > (7) >> > >>> > members elected by the Sugar community—the Sugar Membership. The >> > >>> > positions >> > >>> > on the Oversight Board will be on a two-year staggered basis. The >> > >>> > members of >> > >>> > the Oversight Board may be removed from the position at any >> time by a >> > >>> > majority vote of the Community Members. Upon the resignation >> or removal >> > >>> > of a >> > >>> > member of the Oversight Board, the Community Members shall >> elect a >> > >>> > replacement Community Member to serve on the Oversight Board. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > In my humble opinion, the decision about when to do elections >> should >> > >>> > not >> > >>> > reside with the board, but with the elections committee. >> > >>> > Aparently lfaraone is MIA. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > At any rate this course of events should've been >> discussed/announced to >> > >>> > the >> > >>> > Sugar Labs members. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > It could've been expected, that the board members with >> expired period >> > >>> > would >> > >>> > simply no longer be board members and that the 2 candidates >> would be >> > >>> > promoted to board members (as pretty much happened last year, >> except no >> > >>> > shortage). >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I have volunteered to be member of elections committee since >> Oct 2014. >> > >>> > I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by the >> board, as >> > >>> > per >> > >>> > the governance model. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I did not become a candidate because I was expecting do the >> gruntwork >> > >>> > to run >> > >>> > the election. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I will abide by what the majority of Sugar Labs members wish >> and the >> > >>> > accepted oversight board. >> > >>> > If we are to run elections any time we need to also follow >> > >>> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members : >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Currency assurance policy[edit] >> > >>> > >> > >>> > In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list is >> reflective of >> > >>> > the >> > >>> > current status of the project and its participants, once a >> year members >> > >>> > will >> > >>> > be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar Labs >> Member. If >> > >>> > this >> > >>> > request bounces, or if a request has not been replied to >> after it has >> > >>> > been >> > >>> > a) resent, b) checked for a more current email address, and >> c) six >> > >>> > months >> > >>> > have passed, the member will be sent a removal notice with an >> > >>> > invitation to >> > >>> > reapply. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I am in technical capacity and have the good will to begin >> working with >> > >>> > these objectives as soon as I get the board's appointment. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I would like to hear more opinion from the community about >> the election >> > >>> > process. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Regards, >> > >>> > Sebastian >> > >>> > >> > >>> > El 10/03/15 a las 11:47, Samuel Greenfeld escibió: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > If the current governing documents don't allow mid-term >> replacements >> > >>> > due to >> > >>> > someone resigning or shortages, that might be something worth >> amending >> > >>> > them >> > >>> > to include. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Walter Bender >> > >>> > <[email protected]> >> > >>> > wrote: >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> We run elections at the end of each year. If we have fewer >> candidates >> > >>> >> than slots to fill, we don't run the election. We'll run another >> > >>> >> election at the end of 2015. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Regards. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> -walter >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Laura Vargas >> <[email protected]> >> > >>> >> wrote: >> > >>> >> > I'm really sorry I didn't understood well your intructions >> at that >> > >>> >> > time... >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > Now, my name is on the list ;D >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > According to your logic, we should run elections when we >> have enough >> > >>> >> > candidates. >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > How many additional candidates do we need? >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > 2015-03-10 11:23 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard >> <[email protected]>: >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Laura Vargas >> > >>> >> >> <[email protected]> >> > >>> >> >> wrote: >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> Hi Gonzalo, >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> Regarding the Sugar Labs Board, if no elections are >> going to me be >> > >>> >> >>> made, how do you justify not to rotate the board members >> with long >> > >>> >> >>> time active volunteers? specially those who have shown >> interest, >> > >>> >> >>> like >> > >>> >> >>> I have >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> Hi Laura, >> > >>> >> >> Why you didn't follow the procedure to make your candidature? >> > >>> >> >> You only needed add your name to >> > >>> >> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> That was requested many times, and there are only two >> candidates to >> > >>> >> >> fill 4 >> > >>> >> >> seats. >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> Gonzalo >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> Thanks and I really hope (for the sake of the kids) we >> can run a >> > >>> >> >>> democratic community soon! >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> 2015-03-10 10:06 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard >> <[email protected]>: >> > >>> >> >>> > Hi Sebastian, >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > In this specific case, we will keep the replies from the >> > >>> >> >>> > deployments >> > >>> >> >>> > confidential >> > >>> >> >>> > and release a general inform with conclusions without >> naming the >> > >>> >> >>> > deployment >> > >>> >> >>> > involved. >> > >>> >> >>> > There are a reason for that, and anybody involved in >> negotiation >> > >>> >> >>> > with >> > >>> >> >>> > countries will understand. >> > >>> >> >>> > Every time than a country say will buy N number of >> hardware with >> > >>> >> >>> > X >> > >>> >> >>> > software, >> > >>> >> >>> > all the big companies start to pressure. >> > >>> >> >>> > Transparency have a big value, but we can't be naive. >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> and we are organizing a face to face meeting with all the >> > >>> >> >>> >> members >> > >>> >> >>> >> fro >> > >>> >> >>> >> SLOBs, >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> How will this help to address Dan's (valid) concern? >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> to discuss strategies. >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > We need do a deep discussion we can't do by irc or email. >> > >>> >> >>> > I don't know if this is the solution, but we are trying >> > >>> >> >>> > something >> > >>> >> >>> > different. >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> We are discussing more ideas, like survey the >> community and >> > >>> >> >>> >> teachers, >> > >>> >> >>> >> like >> > >>> >> >>> >> was proposed in this list. >> > >>> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> And? >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > I don't understand the question. >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > Gonzalo >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> >> >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > >>> >> >>> > [email protected] >> > >>> >> >>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> -- >> > >>> >> >>> Laura V. >> > >>> >> >>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire >> > >>> >> >>> IRC kaametza >> > >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> Happy Learning! >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> -- >> > >>> >> >> Gonzalo Odiard >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > -- >> > >>> >> > Laura V. >> > >>> >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire >> > >>> >> > IRC kaametza >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > Happy Learning! >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > >>> >> > [email protected] >> > >>> >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> -- >> > >>> >> Walter Bender >> > >>> >> Sugar Labs >> > >>> >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > >>> >> [email protected] >> > >>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > >>> > [email protected] >> > >>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> -- >> > >>> Walter Bender >> > >>> Sugar Labs >> > >>> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Gonzalo Odiard >> > >> >> > >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > >> [email protected] >> > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > > [email protected] >> > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > > [email protected] >> > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Laura V. >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >> > >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire >> > IRC kaametza >> > >> > Happy Learning! >> > _______________________________________________ >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >
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