Anyway, I propose to set up again a tracker queue and direct the members alias to it, as well as the actual members of the membership and election committee.
Once the board has confirmed the appointment, I will begin working on this with Infrastructure team in coordination with Caryl and any other volunteers who wish to join the effort. Do you have a board meeting scheduled? Regards, Sebastian El 14/03/15 a las 19:52, Sebastian Silva escibió: > Hi Gonzalo, > > I used my shell account to have a look to /etc/aliases on sunjammer. > > Currently [email protected] directs to the following persons: > > samsongoddy, > walter, > bernie > > It used to be the case that there was a Request Tracker queue for > membership, but RT is no longer in use. I don't know when this was > changed. > > I do hope membership applications have been processed. > > Regards, > Sebastian > > El 13/03/15 a las 08:49, Gonzalo Odiard escibió: >> Caryl and Sebastian, >> Looks like a plan. >> We can confirm that in the next SLOBs meeting. >> About [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, I don't >> know who manage that, >> maybe Bernie? >> >> Gonzalo >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Sebastian Silva >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Forgot to mention, we also need to get access to >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, since I >> suspect new membership applications have gone stale for a long >> time now. (see [1]) >> >> [1] >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members#Applying_for_membership >> >> El 10/03/15 a las 15:05, Sebastian Silva escibió: >>> Hi Caryl, >>> Thanks for co-volunteering with me! >>> >>> As I see it, what needs to be done is: >>> 1- Tally up a list of current Sugar Members's emails >>> (starting from here >>> <http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List>) >>> 2- Setup a survey to ask if they want to stay active, voting >>> members (I propose to use the LimeSurvey software. >>> Infrastructure team can set it up and it's easy to use.) >>> 3- Get familiar with Selectricity, our current voting >>> mechanism. Get access to the voting machine. >>> 4- Improve the voting experience. For instance, /en español >>> /instructions are a must in this community. >>> 5- Determine in consensus /when/ an election will take place. >>> >>> If we can be formally appointed, I'm certain you will be able to >>> contribute to every step of the process. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sebastian >>> >>> El 10/03/15 a las 14:18, Caryl Bigenho escibió: >>>> Hi All >>>> >>>> For heaven's sake! No wonder we are always stalled. If it will >>>> help, I'll do the election. It can't be that much work. I have >>>> no conflicts of interest. What would I need to do? >>>> >>>> Caryl >>>> >>>> > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:54:09 -0500 >>>> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > CC: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > Subject: Re: [IAEP] Will anything change this time? >>>> > >>>> > Adam, >>>> > >>>> > To your "conflict of interest" concern and with all the love >>>> to my >>>> > husband, I can only respond that I believe I have enough >>>> skills and >>>> > merit by myself. >>>> > >>>> > Best wishes, >>>> > Laura V >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 2015-03-10 13:31 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva >>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>: >>>> > > Well, >>>> > > It's 2015 and we are all hackers here. >>>> > > >>>> > > Your question is only a technical question, and the whole >>>> process has always >>>> > > been/forever will be open for scrutiny. >>>> > > >>>> > > Regards, >>>> > > Sebastian >>>> > > >>>> > > El 10/03/15 a las 13:25, Adam Holt escibió: >>>> > > >>>> > > If Sebastian becomes the Elections Committee which is fine >>>> with me, how do >>>> > > we avoid a more-than-Clintonesque conflict-of-interest with >>>> his wife running >>>> > > for office, and himself running the election? >>>> > > >>>> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Sebastian Silva >>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Yes, >>>> > >> Exactly this is my proposal, from my prior email: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> I have volunteered to be member of elections committee >>>> since Oct 2014. >>>> > >> I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by >>>> the board, as >>>> > >> per the governance model. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Therefore, the board would have to appoint me formally. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Regards, >>>> > >> Sebastian >>>> > >> >>>> > >> El 10/03/15 a las 13:01, Gonzalo Odiard escibió: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Would be good if someone volunteer to integrate the >>>> elections committee >>>> > >> to replace Luke. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Gonzalo >>>> > >> >>>> > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Walter Bender >>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >> wrote: >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Sebastian, >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> The election was discussed in public SLOB meetings. We >>>> made public >>>> > >>> decisions with opportunity for public input. If you want >>>> to ask the >>>> > >>> board to revisit its decisions, that is fine. Please try >>>> to be >>>> > >>> concrete in your proposal. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> regards. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> -walter >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Silva >>>> > >>> <[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>> > Actually, the governance model says nothing about >>>> election at the end >>>> > >>> > of >>>> > >>> > every year, nor about shortages of candidates. It does say: >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > Sugar Labs shall be governed by an Oversight Board, >>>> consisting of seven >>>> > >>> > (7) >>>> > >>> > members elected by the Sugar community—the Sugar >>>> Membership. The >>>> > >>> > positions >>>> > >>> > on the Oversight Board will be on a two-year staggered >>>> basis. The >>>> > >>> > members of >>>> > >>> > the Oversight Board may be removed from the position at >>>> any time by a >>>> > >>> > majority vote of the Community Members. Upon the >>>> resignation or removal >>>> > >>> > of a >>>> > >>> > member of the Oversight Board, the Community Members >>>> shall elect a >>>> > >>> > replacement Community Member to serve on the Oversight >>>> Board. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > In my humble opinion, the decision about when to do >>>> elections should >>>> > >>> > not >>>> > >>> > reside with the board, but with the elections committee. >>>> > >>> > Aparently lfaraone is MIA. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > At any rate this course of events should've been >>>> discussed/announced to >>>> > >>> > the >>>> > >>> > Sugar Labs members. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > It could've been expected, that the board members with >>>> expired period >>>> > >>> > would >>>> > >>> > simply no longer be board members and that the 2 >>>> candidates would be >>>> > >>> > promoted to board members (as pretty much happened last >>>> year, except no >>>> > >>> > shortage). >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > I have volunteered to be member of elections committee >>>> since Oct 2014. >>>> > >>> > I cannot do this work without being appointed the role >>>> by the board, as >>>> > >>> > per >>>> > >>> > the governance model. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > I did not become a candidate because I was expecting do >>>> the gruntwork >>>> > >>> > to run >>>> > >>> > the election. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > I will abide by what the majority of Sugar Labs members >>>> wish and the >>>> > >>> > accepted oversight board. >>>> > >>> > If we are to run elections any time we need to also follow >>>> > >>> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members : >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > Currency assurance policy[edit] >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list >>>> is reflective of >>>> > >>> > the >>>> > >>> > current status of the project and its participants, >>>> once a year members >>>> > >>> > will >>>> > >>> > be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar >>>> Labs Member. If >>>> > >>> > this >>>> > >>> > request bounces, or if a request has not been replied >>>> to after it has >>>> > >>> > been >>>> > >>> > a) resent, b) checked for a more current email address, >>>> and c) six >>>> > >>> > months >>>> > >>> > have passed, the member will be sent a removal notice >>>> with an >>>> > >>> > invitation to >>>> > >>> > reapply. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > I am in technical capacity and have the good will to >>>> begin working with >>>> > >>> > these objectives as soon as I get the board's appointment. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > I would like to hear more opinion from the community >>>> about the election >>>> > >>> > process. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > Regards, >>>> > >>> > Sebastian >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > El 10/03/15 a las 11:47, Samuel Greenfeld escibió: >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > If the current governing documents don't allow mid-term >>>> replacements >>>> > >>> > due to >>>> > >>> > someone resigning or shortages, that might be something >>>> worth amending >>>> > >>> > them >>>> > >>> > to include. >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Walter Bender >>>> > >>> > <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>> > wrote: >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> We run elections at the end of each year. If we have >>>> fewer candidates >>>> > >>> >> than slots to fill, we don't run the election. We'll >>>> run another >>>> > >>> >> election at the end of 2015. >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> Regards. >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> -walter >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Laura Vargas >>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>> >> wrote: >>>> > >>> >> > I'm really sorry I didn't understood well your >>>> intructions at that >>>> > >>> >> > time... >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > Now, my name is on the list ;D >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > According to your logic, we should run elections >>>> when we have enough >>>> > >>> >> > candidates. >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > How many additional candidates do we need? >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > 2015-03-10 11:23 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard >>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>: >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Laura Vargas >>>> > >>> >> >> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>> >> >> wrote: >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> Hi Gonzalo, >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> Regarding the Sugar Labs Board, if no elections >>>> are going to me be >>>> > >>> >> >>> made, how do you justify not to rotate the board >>>> members with long >>>> > >>> >> >>> time active volunteers? specially those who have >>>> shown interest, >>>> > >>> >> >>> like >>>> > >>> >> >>> I have >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> Hi Laura, >>>> > >>> >> >> Why you didn't follow the procedure to make your >>>> candidature? >>>> > >>> >> >> You only needed add your name to >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> That was requested many times, and there are only >>>> two candidates to >>>> > >>> >> >> fill 4 >>>> > >>> >> >> seats. >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> Gonzalo >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> Thanks and I really hope (for the sake of the >>>> kids) we can run a >>>> > >>> >> >>> democratic community soon! >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> 2015-03-10 10:06 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard >>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>: >>>> > >>> >> >>> > Hi Sebastian, >>>> > >>> >> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> >>> > In this specific case, we will keep the replies >>>> from the >>>> > >>> >> >>> > deployments >>>> > >>> >> >>> > confidential >>>> > >>> >> >>> > and release a general inform with conclusions >>>> without naming the >>>> > >>> >> >>> > deployment >>>> > >>> >> >>> > involved. >>>> > >>> >> >>> > There are a reason for that, and anybody >>>> involved in negotiation >>>> > >>> >> >>> > with >>>> > >>> >> >>> > countries will understand. >>>> > >>> >> >>> > Every time than a country say will buy N number >>>> of hardware with >>>> > >>> >> >>> > X >>>> > >>> >> >>> > software, >>>> > >>> >> >>> > all the big companies start to pressure. >>>> > >>> >> >>> > Transparency have a big value, but we can't be >>>> naive. >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> and we are organizing a face to face meeting >>>> with all the >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> members >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> fro >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> SLOBs, >>>> > >>> >> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> How will this help to address Dan's (valid) >>>> concern? >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> to discuss strategies. >>>> > >>> >> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> >>> > We need do a deep discussion we can't do by irc >>>> or email. >>>> > >>> >> >>> > I don't know if this is the solution, but we are >>>> trying >>>> > >>> >> >>> > something >>>> > >>> >> >>> > different. >>>> > >>> >> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> We are discussing more ideas, like survey the >>>> community and >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> teachers, >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> like >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> was proposed in this list. >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >> And? >>>> > >>> >> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> >>> > I don't understand the question. >>>> > >>> >> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> >>> > Gonzalo >>>> > >>> >> >>> > >>>> > >>> >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > >>> >> >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop >>>> project!) >>>> > >>> >> >>> > [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>> >> >>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> -- >>>> > >>> >> >>> Laura V. >>>> > >>> >> >>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire >>>> > >>> >> >>> IRC kaametza >>>> > >>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >> >>> Happy Learning! >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> -- >>>> > >>> >> >> Gonzalo Odiard >>>> > >>> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > -- >>>> > >>> >> > Laura V. >>>> > >>> >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire >>>> > >>> >> > IRC kaametza >>>> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>> >> > Happy Learning! >>>> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > >>> >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop >>>> project!) >>>> > >>> >> > [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>> >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> -- >>>> > >>> >> Walter Bender >>>> > >>> >> Sugar Labs >>>> > >>> >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >>>> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >>> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>> > >>> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>> > >>> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> -- >>>> > >>> Walter Bender >>>> > >>> Sugar Labs >>>> > >>> http://www.sugarlabs.org >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> -- >>>> > >> Gonzalo Odiard >>>> > >> >>>> > >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>> > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>> > >> >>>> > >> -- >>>> > >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ >>>> http://unleashkids.org ! >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>> > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>> > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Laura V. >>>> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >>>> > >>>> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire >>>> > IRC kaametza >>>> > >>>> > Happy Learning! >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Gonzalo Odiard >> >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning >
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