sepengetahuan saya (info waktu saya ikut BOD meetingnya IPA beberapa tahun yl, bahkan beberapa tahun sebelum bali international conference......., jadi mungkin sudah ada perubahan visi sekarang...)
- (BOD) IPA waktu itu agak kurang berkenan berafiliasi dengan AAPG karena sifat dan tujuan organisasinya berbeda (walau saya tidak sependapat dengan abah soal ini). Dan yang agak, 'membanggakan' IPA itu organisasi level Indonesia, tapi conevntion-nya boleh dikata sudah kelas dunia.......jadi mereka lebih memilih mandiri, daripada menjadi afiliasi. - kalau IAGI mo jadi afiliate nya AAPG sih ok-ok saja, tapi tolong dilihat dan dipertimbangkan betul syarat dan kondisinya, seperti kata abah : mitra atau cabang..... Pengalaman ikutan jadi seksi sibuk di bali 2000, saya melihat kok proporsinya agak timpang........kita tergabung dalam 'local committee' yang sangat didirect oleh 'houston committee' alias tidak dalam posisi satu horizon. Coba dibandingkan dengan kerjasama antara HAGI dan SEG, saya kira jauh lebih menunjukkan kesetaraan dalam kerjasamanya (mungkin ADB perlu diskusi dengan teman-teman HAGI untuk perbandingan soal kerja sama ini). - soal peran IAGI di Bali 2000, saya kira tidak bisa dikatakan kecil, karena secara tidak langsung beberapa orang datang dengan 'baju dobel'...ya IPA ya IAGI he he he jadi kesuksesan Bali 2000 (no 2 tertinggi setelah rio dari segi partisipan) adalah hasil kerja semuanya....... - soal proporsi keuntungan, saya kira itu adalah sesuai dengan risk yang bersedia dipikul. Waktu itu (setahu saya), IAGI tidak punya banyak modal untuk menutup kalau seandainya Bali 200 rugi. Dengan demikian risknya hanya berani tanggung 10% saja dari kerugian, dan sebaliknya karena akhirnya untung ya hanya dapat 10% juga........(bandingkan dengan AAPGnya yang dapat 50% sendirian........). Setahu saya beberapa sub-event di Bali 2000 juga rugi alias gak balik modal.....tapi pukul rata masih untung. Jadi hal ini sama sekali tidak berkaitan bahwa Bali 2000 itu milik siapa-siapa atau karena BODnya dari mana......, tapi akibat konsekuensi logis saja dari keberanian memikul resiko (no risk no gain katanya.......). salam, ----- Original Message ----- From: Yanto R. Sumantri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 04:49 Subject: [iagi-net-l] Re: IAGI as AAPG affiliated society > Rekan rekan IAGI > > Ber ulang2 sudah saya katakan , baik dalam forum resmi maupun dalam > diskusi bahwa IPA adalah asosiasi dari perusahaan perusahaan minyak dan > perusahaan yang berhubungan dengan indusrtri migas (dalam hal ini > dominan di sektor hulunya). > Sebagai asosasi perusahaan maka adalah wajar apabila tujuan utamanya > adalah kepentingan bersama dari perusahaan itu , termasuk didalamnya > menjadi "pressure group" (kalau perlu) . Hal ini sudah dibuktikan dalam > perjalanan sejarah mereka al. dalam soal pajak , pengalihan Caltex , UU > - migas , dsb. > Dus aktifitas yang lain adalah dalam mendukung tujuan tersebut diatas. > > Soal AAPG agak berlainan , walaupun ada kata "American" didalamnya , > tidak terlalu kentara (walaupun pasti ada) pembelaan kepentingan "the > American". > > Apakah menguntungkan kalau kita menjadi afiliasi dari AAPG ? > > Lihat dulu apakah afiliasi berarti "cabang"-nya AAPG atau ka mitra ? > > Kalau jadi "cabang" , ya nanti dulu , kalau jadi mitra kelihatannya Ok > saja . > Hal ini sudah kita lakukan pada saat IAGI menjadi "mitra" pada saat kita > menyelenggarakan Int'l AAPG Conference di Bali. > > Walaupun peran kita sangat sangat kecil (al. karena kita secara "cash"" > tidak mempunyai peran) IAGI mendapatkan keuntungan yang lumayan dimana > (anehnya IPA , mungkin karena punya uang dan Board of Director -nya > banyak the American mendapatkan PI 30 % , IAGI 10 % dan HAGI 10 %). > Padahal yang punya Bali kan IAGI dan HAGI , dan karena diadakan di Bali > maka begitu banyak peserta yang mau hadir , hal mana tidak terjadi di > Kuala Lumpur. > > Ini suatu pengalaman yang perlu dipertimbangkan . > > Jadi sebaiknya menjadi afiliasi dari AAPG dilakukan atas dasar : > 1. Kepentingan IAGI dan nasional > 2. Lakukan "case by case". > > Kalau UNHAS mendapatkan award dengan embel embel AAPG Student Chapter , > ini tentunya karena IAGI tidak mampu / belum mampu melakukan hal > tersebut , padahal itu kan menjadi salah satu tugas IAGI sebagaimana > (kembali saya mengingatkan) tercantum dalam AD /ART - IAGI. > > Si Abah > > ANDANG BACHTIAR wrote: > > > > Setahuku sampai sekarang tidak ada pelarangan itu, Man... > > Gak tahu juga ya.... kalau Kang Yanto pernah denger soal itu...... > > Kalaupun ada, itu mungkin untuk IPA (tapi apa alasannya ya???) > > > > Untuk IAGI, saya juga bertanya-tanya, kenapa dari dulu kita tidak mencoba > > jadi affiliated society-nya AAPG ya? > > Kalau sekarang ada opportunity, why not trying it??!! > > > > Let me discuss this with IAGI BOC (Board of Chairman). > > > > adb > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Darman, Herman H BSP-TSX/4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "ANDANG BACHTIAR (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:24 AM > > Subject: IAGI as AAPG affiliated society > > > > Yayang, > > > > Apa benar IAGI dilarang oleh pemerintah Indonesia untuk jadi affiliated > > society? > > Your view? > > Thanks, > > > > Herman > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dana Patterson Free [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 23 April 2004 06:05 > > To: Darman, Herman H BSP-TSX/4 > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Asia/Pacific Web Site > > > > Herman, thank you for your time to update and correct the Asia-Pacific > > Web site. > > > > You can find the process to become an affiliated society at > > http://www.aapg.org/member/affiliate.html. However, I checked with Donna > > Riggs (AAPG Senior Manager of Special Projects) and she remembers that > > the IPA, and perhaps IAGI, were not allowed to become affiliated due to > > regulations by the Indonesian government. Maybe the regulation(s) have > > changed since the attempts several years ago to become affiliated. > > > > We will add the two meetings you have requested under "Regional Events > > and Meetings" and will look forward to your response to the additional > > action items. > > > > Best regards, dana > > > > Subject: RE: Asia/Pacific Web Site > > Date sent: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:45:53 +0800 > > From: "Darman, Herman H BSP-TSX/4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Copies to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Dear Dana and Janet, > > > > > > Thanks for updating the Asia/Pacific web-site. I don't see Indonesian > > > Petroleum Association (IPA, http://www.ipa.or.id/) and Indonesian > > > Geologists Association (IAGI, http://www.iagi.or.id/) as AAPG affiliated > > > society. May be I can invite them to become AAPG affiliated society (John, > > > any comment?). > > > > > > There will be 2 future important meetings in SE Asia region: > > > 1. SEAPEX Conference: Singapore 5-7 April 2005 (AAPG affiliated society) > > > 2. IPA: DEEPWATER AND FRONTIER EXPLORATION IN ASIA & AUSTRALASIA, Regent > > > Hotel, Jakarta, Indonesia, December 7-8, 2004 Can you please put them > > > under "regional events and meetings"? (not an affiliated society?) > > > > > > Currently I'm working on the action items you sent below, and I will let > > > you know once I get the reply from them. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Herman > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dana Patterson Free [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 09 April 2004 05:12 > > > To: Darman, Herman H BSP-TSX/4 > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Asia/Pacific Web Site > > > > > > > > > Dear Herman, > > > > > > Thank you for the additional information. It is great that the > > > Asia/Pacific team is so well represented and organized and AAPG HQ wants > > > to assist you to facilitate communication among the members. > > > > > > Janet has revamped the Asia/Pacific home page, reflecting the changes you > > > requested. Please note: > > > > > > 1. For Myanmar, Frank Hollinger is "to be confirmed." Has he been > > > confirmed? > > > > > > 2. Neither Budi Budiono (Indonesia) nor Khun Anuroj (Thailand) are AAPG > > > members. Our guidelines to be an AAPG representative require membership. > > > Perhaps their memberships are in progress? In the meantime, we cannot list > > > them on the Web. > > > > > > 3. Our member database is only as accurate as the info we receive from the > > > members. As a suggestion, you may want to ask each member of the Executive > > > and Regional Steering Committee and each Country Contact to check their > > > member record. The URL for members to update their records is: > > > http://www.aapg.org/members_only/. > > > > > > Herman, thank you for your time. I think you will find that Janet has > > > nicely revised the Web and that you will be pleased with the results. > > > > > > Best regards, dana > > > > > > Subject: RE: FW: New Asia Pacific Team > > > Date sent: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:26:52 +0800 > > > From: "Darman, Herman H BSP-TSX/4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Copies to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Dear Dana, > > > > > > > > Thanks for updating the Asia Pacific team web site. > > > > Can you please update the Region Officer web site as well? The officers > > > > are as follow: > > Executive & Regional Steering Committee 2002-2005 > > > > > > President & Advisory Council Rep: John Kaldi (based in Australia) > > > > > > Vice President: Hasan Sidi (Australia) > > Secretary: Angus Ferguson > > > > (Brunei) > > Treasurer: Jim Howes (New Zealand) > > SE Asia: Herman > > > > Darman (Brunei) > > C. Asia: Kuan Hsu (China) > > NE Asia: Kazuo > > > > Nakayama (Japan) > > SW Asia: Gopal Lahiri (India) Please let me know > > > > if you want me to get the contact detail for each of them. Regards, > > > > > > > > Herman > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dana Patterson Free [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: 08 April 2004 03:29 > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Cc: Darman, Herman H BSP-TSX/4; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: New Asia Pacific > > > > Team > > > > > > > > > > > > John, thanks for bringing this to my attention. We are constantly > > > > updating the Web site and the more eyes that look at it, the better the > > > > chances are that it will be accurate and current. > > > > > > > > Service Team Leaders are listed on the Asia/Pacific Region Web site at > > > > http://www.aapg.org/international/asia_pacific/index.cfm, but I have > > > > copied Janet Brister on this email, as a request for her to move them to > > > > the Asia/Pacific home page, and to add the other officers to your home > > > > page. > > > > > > > > You and members of your region are welcome to contact me any time > > > > concerning Asia/Pacific's information on our Web site. We are consistent > > > > as possible in the design and content, region-to-region, but we > > > > certainly want to be sure that the information is correct and > > > > up-to-date. We're also open to new ideas and suggestions. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input! > > > > > > > > Best regards, dana > > > > > > > > Date sent: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:42:28 +0930 > > > > From: jkaldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To: "Darman, Herman H BSP-TSX/4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Copies to: "John Kaldi (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > > > "Hasan Sidi (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], dana > > > > Paterson-free <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick Fritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: Re: FW: New Asia Pacific Team > > > > > > > > > Herman, > > > > > Many thanks for this. FYI, I had sent the same information into AAPG > > > > > HQ a while ago but it seems not to have made it to the website! I am > > > > > forwarding this note of yours to Dana Paterson Free, who I am sure > > > > > will handle the matter and ensure that it gets on to the website. John > > > > > > > > > > "Darman, Herman H BSP-TSX/4" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > John, > > > > > > > > > > > > I visited AAPG homepage recently and I couldn't find the Asia > > > > > > Pacific Team members on the web. Under Asia Pacific IRC members > > > > > > there only you as a president and Gopal Lahiri as Soutwest Asia > > > > > > Super Team Leader. > > > > > > > > > > > > With your approval, I will suggest AAPG to upload the team as you > > > > > > mentioned earlier in 2002: > > > > > > > > > > > > Executive & Regional Steering Committee 2002-2005 > > > > > > President & Advisory Council Rep: John Kaldi (based in Australia) > > > > > > Vice President: Hasan Sidi (Australia) Secretary: Angus Ferguson > > > > > > (Brunei) Treasurer: Jim Howes (New Zealand) SE Asia: Herman > > > > > > Darman > > > > > > (Brunei) C. Asia: Kuan Hsu (China) NE Asia: Kazuo Nakayama > > > > > > (Japan) SW Asia: Gopal Lahiri (India) > > > > > > > > > > > > HOD Delegates 2002-2005: > > > > > > PNG & Australasia (at large): Mick McWalter (PNG) > > > > > > Indonesia: Hasan Sidi: (Australia) > > > > > > SE Asia (at large): Herman Darman (Brunei) > > > > > > SW Asia (at large): Gopal Lahiri, India > > > > > > Central Asia (at large): Kuan Hsu, (China), with Sejin Park (S > > > > > > Korea) as alternate. PAPG (Pakistan).... Sarfaraz Siddiqui SEAPEX > > > > > > (Singapore)... Richard Lorentz PESA (Australia) (3 seats).... John > > > > > > Kaldi, Clinton Foster and Barry Goldstein with Peter Baillie as > > > > > > alternate. Note that Peter Baillie is also the region's > > > > > > "super-alternate", filling any other unfilled Asia/Pacific HOD seat > > > > > > in the event that all 13 of our delegates (or their respective > > > > > > alternates) cannot make the HOD meeting. JAPT (Japan).... Kazuo > > > > > > Nakayama GSM (Malaysia)... Peter Lloyd (we are looking for a > > > > > > Malaysian to come in and represent their country!) NZAPG (New > > > > > > Zealand)... Brad Field, with Jim Howes as alternate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note I've updated Hasan Sidi's address to Australia. Question > > > > > > for Hasan is whether he is still act as HOD delegate for Indonesia. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any news about AAPG 2006? We can run a field trip for AAPG 2006 to > > > > > > Brunei and Labuan if possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Herman Darman > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: jkaldi / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Sent: 18 September 2002 10:30 > > > > > > To: hsidi / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; pak.angus / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; howes / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > > > > mmcwalter / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; peterb / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; clinton.foster / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; goldstein.barry / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; B.Field / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Herman H. Darman / TSX2, OPENMAIL, BRUNEI SHELL > > > > > > PETROLEUM SERIA; sjpark / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; naka-kaz / > > > > > > mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lloyd / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chuck.Caughey / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Peter.Butterworth / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ANDY.WIGHT / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lambiase / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > > > > richard.lorentz / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; amorillo > > > > > > / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; idc / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > > > > gsolomon / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; anurojn / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; greg.cable / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > > > > fhollgeoph / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; g.lahiri / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; apg.india / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > > > > siddiqi / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; saziz / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ashamsuddin / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > > > > KHHS / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wenliu / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tangz / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > > > > francois.issard / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tlhe / > > > > > > mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RRGRIES / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; driggs / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; bcunning / > > > > > > mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; rFRITZ / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > > > > mmayfiel / mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]; david.dewhurst / mime, , , > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New Asia Pacific Team > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<NEWASIAP.BIN>> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > -- -- -- > > > > > > Name: NEWASIAP.BIN > > > > > > NEWASIAP.BIN Type: unspecified type > > > > > > (application/octet-stream) > > > > > > Encoding: base64 > > > > > > Description: NEWASIAP.BIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Visit IAGI Website: http://iagi.or.id > IAGI-net Archive 1: http://www.mail-archive.com/iagi-net%40iagi.or.id/ > IAGI-net Archive 2: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iagi > > Komisi Sedimentologi (FOSI) : F. 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