Saya pernah sedikit sharing dimaillist, bahwa umumnya bahwa shale gas yang sukses di US adalah mid Paleozoic intracratonic semi-arid, restrictric marine hingga sabkha. Sweetspot organic rich shale bercampur authigenic/evaporite mineral spt dolomite, anhydrite dll (CMIIW). Kondisi dep env. yang mendukung brittleness dan fractability dari shale gas tsb. Sukses story untuk Mezosoic(Jurassic Pre-Rift) juga belum terdengar.. Sekedar meramaikan diskusi Pak. RUS 1061 -----Original Message----- From: Anggoro Dradjat <adradjat....@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:29:53 To: <iagi-net@iagi.or.id> Reply-To: <iagi-net@iagi.or.id> Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Shale gas news
Nama cekungan yang di Polandia itu apa yaa? shale di formasi apa? kalau ngak salah yang di Amerika itu kebanyakan berada di Intra Craton Basin dan dari lingkungan pengedapan Lacustrin, Kalau yang di Amerika seperti yang dipresentasikan Pak Naslin di UGM, horizontal layeringnya terlihat jelas adanya Vertikal Transfer Isotropic yang menggambarkan perbedaan cepat rambat gelombang P secara vertikal, perubahan TOC dari shale juga tercermin dari sonic resistivity DlogR. Wah kalau abu-abu isotropic dong, sedikit organiknya dan ngak fracable. Mungkin lokasinya dipilih dari sweet spot seismic? Tapi seharusnya kan dilihat dahulu dari data sumur yang ada? apakah sweet spot itu mengambarkan zona resistivitas yang tinggi dan zona anisotropi dari shale. Kemungkinan yang lain adalah belum ada data sumur, jadi explorasi banget buat shale? Atau operatornya dari negara dengan kekuatan militer terbesar di dunia tapi ngak pernah menang perang...heee...heeee Salam Anggoro Dradjat On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:04 PM, nyoto - ke-el <ssoena...@gmail.com> wrote: > Apakah itu berarti operatornya tertipu atau ditipu atau salah interpretasi > sebelumnya sehingga mengexecute project tsb ? Rasa2nya operator sebesar EM > itu dg jumlah PhD nya yg sampai 600 (email cak Avi), tidak mungkin deh. > Atau ada info2 lain ? > > Wass, > nyoto > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:49 PM, naslin lainda <nas...@rediffmail.com>wrote: > >> Tadi saya barusan ngobrol ama teman yg terlibat di eksplorasi shale gas >> di polandia ini. Katanya TOC nya rendah dibawah 1%. Dari foto core nya >> warnanya abu2, bukan seperti black shale yg di US. Jadi kayaknya bukan >> organic rich shale yg mereka dapatkan. >> >> >> >> Naslin >> >> >> From: "rakhmadi avianto"rakhmadi.avia...@gmail.com >> Sent:Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:17:44 +0530 >> To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id >> Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Shale gas news >> >> Dari awal aku memang sudah curiga, mungkin ngga ya Shale Gas Exploration, >> dg exitnya EM dari Poland saya kira bukan hal yg main2. Saya yg alumnus EM >> merasa bahwa EM tidak pernah main2 dalam research di Houston setahu saya >> waktu di sana ada 600an lebih PHD yg kerja di Lab yg diambil dari lulusan >> hampir seluruh dunia dg GPA yg mendekati 4 yg diterima artinya lulusan Top >> of the nudge lah >> >> > >> >> >Untuk Indonesia, mungkin tidak semua shale punya potential jadi Shale >> Gas, ini yg belum di evaluasi, belum apa2 koq ujuk2 udah sekian TCF emang >> dari mana dan dasarnya apa? >> >> > >> >> >Ingat RDP waktu jadi panelis di gas hydrate, acara Pertamina di >> Kempinski Hotel, RDP mengusulkan harus ada Pilot Project dari Zero ke Hero, >> artinya research yg ter-integrasi, ada G&G, ada drilling, dll krn >> menyangkut fracturing dimana ada usaha dari shale yg nature-nya impermeable >> menjadi permeable, tentu tidak mudah dan tentu perlu dedikasi yg tinggi >> dalam research ini. >> >> > >> >> >Salam, >> >> >Avi NPA 06666 >> >> >Nomor cantik >> >> > >> >> > >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Fatrial Bahesti >> <bahe...@gmail.com<http://ajaxprism/writemail?mode=mail_to_individual&email=bahe...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> Mudah2an shale exit tidak terjadi di Indonesia, melainkan tetap exist >> for shale gas exploration.. >> >> > ExxonMobil in Poland shale exit >> >> By Kathrine Schmidt and news wires >> >> 18 June 2012 18:00 GMT >> *Following two disappointing test wells in January, ExxonMobil has made >> the decision to call off further exploration there, a spokesman said >> Monday. * >> >> "There have been no demonstrated sustained commercial hydrocarbon flow >> rates in our two wells in the Lublin and Podlasie basins," ExxonMobil >> spokesman Patrick McGinn told Upstream in an email. >> >> "We do not have additional drilling plans in Poland." >> >> The supermajor's chief executive Rex Tillerson in March alluded to some >> of the technical challenges of drilling in rock formations that had >> initially held high hopes for unconventional production. >> >> The US Energy Information Administration has pegged Poland as having >> among the largest shale reserves in Europe. >> >> Nonetheless, ExxonMobil chief executive Rex Tillerson spoke to the >> technical difficulties there in a New York meeting with analysts in March. >> >> “Some of the shales don’t respond as well to hydraulic fracturing,” the >> news wire quoted Tillerson as saying during a meeting with reporters after >> his presentation to analysts. “It’s going to take research and time in the >> lab to understand that.” >> >> Reuters said that a government report in March slashed estimates of >> Poland's shale gas reserves to 346 billion to 768 billion cubic meters, or >> about one-tenth of previous estimates, denting hopes for an energy source >> that could play a key role in weaning Europe off Russian gas. >> >> Poland has granted 112 shale exploration licences to ExxonMobil, Chevron >> and other firms, even as some countries, including France and Bulgaria, >> have banned shale exploration pending further environmental studies. >> >> The Poles are keen to wean themselves off their heavy reliance on coal >> and imported Russian gas, partly due to environmental commitments they face >> as a European Union member nation. >> >> "ExxonMobil realised that commercial extraction was not possible with >> currently available technology. This is a general problem in Poland that >> shale rocks are too tight to allow extraction," an industry source told the >> news wire, asking not to be identified. >> >> Abundant shale gas production in Poland poses a potential threat to >> Russia's supremacy in Europe, where it supplies a quarter of the gas used >> in the EU. >> >> Yet Russian gas export monopoly Gazprom has repeatedly played down the >> threat and on Monday Sergei Komlev, head of contract structuring and price >> formation at Gazprom Export, told a conference in London that Polish gas >> would struggle to achieve the low prices of US shale rivals. >> >> "In Poland the price for shale gas will be above $15 per million British >> thermal units, over three times than in the US where prices will rise to >> $5-10 (from a current $2.50) once they export gas," Komlev said. >> >> Last Wednesday, the government abruptly called off a presentation of a >> legal framework for the development of shale gas resources, disappointing >> industry players eager for more clarity before committing further to >> investing in the sector. >> >> "If this draft was published and ExxonMobil later declared it was leaving >> the country, it would most likely have been a disaster in terms of the >> country's image," said Piotr Spaczynski, partner at law firm Spaczynski, >> Szczepaniak & Wspolnicy, which advises foreign oil companies investing in >> Polish shale. >> >> The government now plans to unveil the draft law by the end of the month, >> and has said it will cover exploration and extraction of oil and gas from >> both conventional and unconventional sources, including taxation, licensing >> and environmental issues. >> >> "If I were the government, I would scrap all drafts and let companies >> work, or publish a draft supporting exploration and not one directed at >> excessive taxation," Spaczynski said. >> >> Poland had high hopes for shale after a study by the US Energy >> Information Association in 2011 estimated Polish reserves at 5.3 trillion >> cubic metres, enough to cover domestic demand for some 300 years. >> >> The government's study in March slashed estimates for recoverable shale >> gas reserves at 346 to 768 billion cubic metres. >> >> Despite ExxonMobil, the world's most valuable energy company, to deciding >> to scrap exploration, other firms said they remained committed. >> >> "(Our company) continues to remain extremely optimistic about the outlook >> for Polish shale gas," said John Buggenhaggen, exploration director at >> UK-listed San Leon Energy. >> >> >> >> > >> >> <http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/signatureline.htm@Middle?> >> Follow *Rediff Deal ho >> jaye!<http://track.rediff.com/click?url=___http://dealhojaye.rediff.com?sc_cid=rediffmailsignature___&cmp=signature&lnk=rediffmailsignature&newservice=deals> >> * to get exciting offers in your city everyday. > > >
