Bung Mino kayanya kurang nyimak inti permasalahannya deh. Bukan ttg ilmiah
Orang bertanya atau kritik atau mledek ya perlu disambut supaya tdk kecewa.  
Yang sy defence bukan saya tapi kebenaran. Sy sih biasa2 aja kok.

Kamana wae euy?


Danny Hilman Natawidjaja
LabEarth (Laboratory for Earth Hazards)
Geoteknologi - LIPI

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Sapiie <[email protected]>
Sender: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 17:49:18 
To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [iagi-net] age of homo sapines....Re: [iagi-net] SITUS GUNUNG 
PADANG : BELAJAR DARI ARKEOLOG
Wah kelihatannya dua kubu sudah menggali Kampak perang nih utk urusan 
penelitian Gunung Padang.  Menyimak diskusinya sudah sangat menarik walaupun 
akhirnya tetap tidak memberikan kesimpulan maupun keyakinan yg pasti paling 
tidak buat saya. Karena sejauh ini argumennya belum berimbang baik metoda 
maupun sample yang dianalisa. Agak sulit kalau perdebatan ilmiah tetapi 
membanding interpretasinya bukan datanya dulu. Harapan saya utk berargumentasi 
ilmiah harus Ada duplikasi analisa atau bahkan memberikan alternatif metoda 
yang dapat dijadikan acuan secara kuantitatif. 

Misalnya sample semen, kekar kolom dan juga dating method. Sudah banyak contoh 
dalam paper ilmiah yang memberikan perbedaan dalam hasil analisa utk sample 
yang sama. Belum lagi masalah kontaminasi dalam pengambilan dll. Hal yang 
menarik jika benar adalah homo sapien yang 23,000  sdh sangat maju. Terus 
terang saya skeptic ... Tetapi cukup menarik utk diikuti..

DH tidak perlu terlalu defensif saya kira ini Hal biasa dalam science seperti 
yang diperlihatkan dalam sejarah. Pak Sujatmiko dengan group juga harus 
demikian paling tidak bisa hrs berargumentasi secara seimbang dengan hasil team 
independen. Sebagai contoh, sampai saat ini juga masih Ada yang mengatut teori 
expanding earth misalnya atau anti dengan plate tectonic.  Sejarah 
memperlihatkan bahwa perjalanan utk pembuktian sebuah teori atau hipotesa bisa 
sangat panjang .... Atau tidak berakhir..

Sayangnya bukti yang dapat menyakinkan kebenaran ini utk Gn. Padang sekarang 
kelihatannya akan tertunda..

Salam,

Ben Sapiie









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On May 5, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Franciscus B Sinartio <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
> 
> sekedar memperlancar diskusi,  ini saya kasih link ke wikipedia ttg umur  
> hamo sapiens.
> 
> saya cut dan paste sedikit juga
> 
> Humans (Homo sapiens) are primates of the family Hominidae, and the only 
> extant species of the genus Homo.[2][3] Humans are characterized by having a 
> large brain relative to body size, with a particularly well developed 
> neocortex, prefrontal cortex and temporal lobes, making them capable of 
> abstract reasoning, language, introspection, problem solving and culture 
> through social learning. This mental capability, combined with an adaptation 
> to bipedal locomotion that frees the hands for manipulating objects, has 
> allowed humans to make far greater use of tools than any other species. 
> Humans are the only extant species known to build firesand cook their food, 
> as well as the only known species to clothe themselves and create and use 
> numerous other technologies and arts. The scientific study of humans is the 
> discipline of anthropology.
> Humans are uniquely adept at utilizing systems of symbolic communication such 
> as language and art for self-expression, the exchange of ideas, and 
> organization. Humans create complex social structures composed of many 
> cooperating and competing groups, from families and kinship networks to 
> states. Social interactions between humans have established an extremely wide 
> variety of values, social norms, and rituals, which together form the basis 
> of human society. Humans are noted for their desire to understand and 
> influence their environment, seeking to explain and manipulate phenomena 
> through science, philosophy, mythology, and religion.
> Homo sapiens originated in Africa, where it reached anatomical modernity 
> about 200,000 years ago and began to exhibit full behavioral modernity around 
> 50,000 years ago.[4] The human lineage diverged from the last common ancestor 
> with its closest living relative, the chimpanzee, some five million years 
> ago, evolving into the Australopithecines and eventually the genus Homo.[5] 
> The first Homo species to move out of Africa wasHomo erectus, the African 
> variety of which, together with Homo heidelbergensis, is considered to be the 
> immediate ancestor of modern humans.

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