-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 john gilmore said the following on 05/31/2005 05:16 PM:
| I found the experience of being 'beaten up' drole, and I am of course | unrepentent. | | It will he helpful to go back in time to the early years of OS/MFT for | the System/360. if you think so. I don't :) | Once written within a procedure neither of the DD statements | | //<ddname> DD DUMMY | | or | | //<ddname> DD DUMMY, . . . | | can be altered into one that in fact is functional, permits non-null | outputs to be written or non-null | inputs to be read. | | On the other hand | | //SYSPRINT DD DSN=NULLFILE,BLKSIZE=0,LRECL=137,RECFM=VBA | | can be altered readily by simply supplying a different licit value of | DSN=. This | difference was the basis for my statement that DSN=NULLFILE was superior to | DUMMY when used inside procedures. | Did you try the following: ~ //MYPROC PROC ~ //S1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 ~ //DD1 DD DUMMY,DISP=(,CATLG),SPACE=(TRK,(1)),BLKSIZE=1234 ~ // PEND ~ //TRYIT EXEC MYPROC ~ //S1.DD1 DD DSN=VOLKER.ALLOC.ME Opposed to what you said, VOLKER.ALLOC.ME got allocated, and the DCB parms got retained. Possibly my command of the English language isn't as good as it could be, I still must be misunderstanding you. Or could it be that you are wrong? | | I don't believe in arguments from authority of the form 'Things are thus | because I say so'. Unfortunately, just saying things doesn't make them true, either. Saying things, and providing proof, is another thing | Quos deus perdere vult amentat. or dementat, from dementare, taking the mind away | | On the other hand, I am almost equally suspicious of simplistic | alternatives | to such arguments. The opinions of the competent and the incompeternt | are not | equally valuable; and in particular, the opinions of those who are | exhausted | by their never successful attempts to follow an ordered exposition of any | length have little merit. This forum is not, or at least should not be, | a talk show. Agreed. Now, of course, there is the question: who is competent, who is less competent, who is incompetent in this forum? Only the competent should vote, but who decides who is allowed to vote ? In your example you use the word hubris. Knowing that the original "Quos deus ...." is part of the addendum to Antigone, I don't think that this was pure coincidence. <quote> I did not reply to Charles Mills because I did not judge his post interesting. </quote> This is indeed a good example for hubris, don't you think? ~ With kind Regards |\ _,,,---,,_ ~ ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, ~ Volker Bandke |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' ~ (BSP GmbH) '---''(_/--' `-'\_) ~ This fortune cookie isn't ~ (Another Wisdom from my fortune cookie jar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCndnMHm2sbKEAXTARAjEKAKCeufDAyQ5Go8+b6JiKRPsVXyUM5wCfXzDO uRSt72K+iPjOG9MHR8BzNzo= =Db/s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
