Hi, Sounds like an Army Base IBM sent me to once. I even had an armed guard accompany me to the men's room and stand within inches of me while I took care of nature's demands.
Anyway this topic seems unpopular here in the past. Is there still a, "National Computer Security Association?" Maybe you can take the conversation down the road. Paul Hanrahan -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Washington Post: 40 Million Credit Card #s Hacked Bill Fairchild wrote: > > In a message dated 6/19/2005 8:12:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > This zero-tolerance (ie. intolerant) stuff might play ok on a > 10-second TV > grab. In practice, using real people as opposed to robots, it's an > attitude that will bleed the organisation of important talent when, > occasionally, and for goodness knows what particular reason, some otherwise > very useful member of the staff is unable to comply with the edict. > > > > > Presumably when you accept the offer of employment at such a place the > conditions of continued employment are spelled out to you, and if you have a > problem with their zero tolerance then you will not be hired. I know of one place > where armed guards are positioned at each corner of each floor of each > building. This particular work environment has zero tolerance for visitors > wandering around unescorted, among other policies. If you want a job there, you > accept these conditions. Being bled of important talent is not their highest > priority. What is the priority ? <g> Why the guards are armed ? Since no visitors are allowed, there are only insiders there. Is the gun needed to shoot programmer who just got crazy? So, maybe they should have two guns for better security ? Or machine guns ? Or granades ? Or just because "this is security, and we won't laugh or discuss it". IMHO the *logic* is most important. BTW: I understand and fully accept strict security rules (when needed), but the rules could be enforced by really effective means. Example: instead of firing or shooting a person who left terminal it's better to equip the people with security badges put in the smart card reader of the terminal (PC). When you cannot leave the your room without card, you cannot forget it even when going to the toilet. It works. Been there. I wasn't able to leave the room and forget the card. Nobody fired me, no guard shot me. Just my $0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

