Just remember that the same squatty boxes and off-the-shelf hardware are
running most of your DASD subsystems. You bet your company's crown jewels on
Power PC, P/series servers and Motorola microprocessors every day. I think
the up-time for most of your DASD is probably a magnitude better than your
z-boxes!!!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of William Ball
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2005 6:47 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Another - Another One Bites the Dust
> 
> You're making a leap there that -I'm- certainly not ready to make. Speed
> isn't everything, never has been.
> 
> If you want to play games or have application that you don't really care
> about when it gets done and a lot of times in accurate results and only
> has 1 or 2 users, you -might- be able to live with putting it on a Unix
> platform.
> 
> However, IMHO, the RAS -really- stinks.
> 
> You can't rely on those boxes being up and available to do -production-
> work when you need them.
> 
> One line of bad code or a missing line in a script and the box typically
> goes into a loop and freezes and a lot of the time can't be gotten control
> of again without turning the box off or pulling circuit cards to force it
> to quit.
> 
> The -whole- attitude of the group of people responsible for the care and
> feeding of the squatty boxes is one that a -production- environment in a
> mainframe world can't tolerate. They think nothing of taking a box down or
> changing an IP address in the middle of the day and without telling anyone
> they're about to do it.
> 
> The number of people it takes to support the squatty box environment is
> unreal (5+to 1) for every application they put up.
> 
> It's cheaper to maintain the mainframe....overall.
> 
> The average time for D/R recoverability on a squatty box is measured in
> days....not hours.
> 
> And the list could go on and on.
> 
> Personally, I'd rather have a -slower- box and know that the RAS is there,
> unless of course I want to play a game. <g>
> 
> Bill
> 

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