On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:08 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
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I think it's unlikely that all of your programmers should learn Java.
However, a few probably should. Take a bureaucratic lesson from your
Windows "friends" who are probably nickel and diming your IT budget to
death: nobody is in the mood for single big expenditures. And here it
doesn't make sense anyway.
For mainframe Java development you can visit http://www.eclipse.org and
download the Eclipse Workbench at no charge. This is the same
workbench
found at the root of WebSphere Developer for zSeries and Rational
Application Developer. The commercial IBM tools take a known,
commercially tested Eclipse build and add a variety of plug-ins for
extra
function (like COBOL development, ISPF editor, JCL generator, etc.)
I'm
not necessarily suggesting Eclipse for corporate development, but for
learning Java it's a great way to start.
Java on the mainframe is "too expensive" in terms of CPU. Remember,
around here, "the mainframe in dead!" Management does not want to
spend
__any__ money on the zSeries. We very recently upgraded from a
2066-0A2
to a 2086-A04.250 and we are still, on occassion, running 100%. We
only
upgraded due to some external state auditors (multiple state audit!).
First time I've ever loved and auditor!
Tim,
We had a fellow sysprog request re-imbursement for a JAVA class he was
almost laughed out of the room by the boss.
I thought it was a valid request and if I were boss would have granted
it without even winking an eye. The guy ended up taking the course and
paying for it out of his own pocket. He also left the company about a
year later.
There are still bosses around who really don't care about their
employees.
Ed
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