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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Maynard
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:34 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: RSVNONR -DB2
> 
> 

<snip>

> APPC, ASCH, and all of those TCP/IP daemons. If it requires a 
> CANCEL to
> bring down, it's broken.
> 
> It's not like IBM doesn't have lots of code lying around to 
> handle STOP, so
> it can't be that much of a resource commitment. The problem 
> is that, on a
> platform whose strong suit is reliability and 
> maintainability, having to
> issue a command usually reserved for terminating 
> problematical programs to
> bring down the system "normally" is an exposure. How do you 
> explain to an
> operator that some things can and should be ended via CANCEL, 
> while others
> need STOP and using CANCEL on them is a bad thing, while 
> still others will
> just plain reject a CANCEL?
> 

Well, for our shutdown, we don't need to CANCEL the TCP/IP daemons. They
will each shutdown in response to a MODIFY BPXOINIT,TERM=pid. But a
simple MODIFY OMVS,SHUTDOWN causes them to all shutdown without any
other commands. Finding the "pid" for any particular TCP/IP daemon is a
bit of a bother. I've been thinking about seeing if I can find the
"pid", given a name. If so, then I could write an CA-OPS/MVS II rule for
the STOP command to translate it to the MODIFY BPXOINIT,TERM=pid. Or
maybe a rule to convert a MODIFY BPXOINIT,TERM=stcname to MODIFY
BPXOINIT,TERM=pid.

I also wonder why IBM invented the HALT command for some things (like
VTAM and TCAM)? Why didn't they just use STOP? Hum, I wonder if instead
of the above, I should "generalize" the HALT command so that I could
enter something like "HALT CROND" (Instead of HALT CROND7). HALT is used
less than STOP and so I would be introducing less overhead to command
processing.

Well, someday, maybe, if I ever get a round tuit.


--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
UICI Insurance Center
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