Oh, you think that's bad? Currently, I install and maintain DB2, whose holddata has always been prodigious. A reference to the PTF cover letter is not what I call a packaging problem. What I call a packaging problem is when PTF's that should be coreq'd are not. About a year ago, I put on a HIPER PTF, and the DB2 COPY utility broke. IBM did not believe it was their problem, so I spent many hours recreating it in every possible way, and insisted that they fix it. They finally asked for my load library, with which they were able to recreate the problem. It turned out that the PTF that "broke" COPY addressed a problem in one internal component of that utility, and to fix the breakage I needed to apply an earlier (non-HIPER) PTF which addressed a corresponding component of the COPY utility. I tried pointing out (with great vigor!) that the later PTF should have co-req'd the earlier one, or should have had a DEP hold, but they saw no problem with their packaging. That's what I get for trying to keep up with HIPER's.
Been waiting a long time to get that one off my chest! Cathy -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ibm-main Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 5:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: SMP sloppiness Maybe it's just me, but it seems that less care is being taken by IBM with packaging these days. Due to various (mainly political) reasons, at one site I am in the position of having to apply a heap of maint - better than a years worth. The holddata (for the 1.4 BCP) is significant. An unfortunate number of which refer back to the PTF/APAR text to determine the applicability and/or actions. Poor form - *VERY* poor form. If I have to investigate several thousand PTFs, I certainly don't see why I should be bouncing back and forward to the PTS and/or IBMLink to find what should have been in the hold. I've pissed on CA for this - IBM should have their people on a tighter leash. Anyone else noticed similar ???. Shane ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else, unless expressly approved by the sender or an authorized addressee, is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action omitted or taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you believe that you have received this email in error, please contact the sender, delete this e-mail and destroy all copies. ============================================================================== ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

