I left mainframes for three years to manage a UNIX shop in the late
'90s.  When they were upgrading the CONVEX supercomputer, a huge vector
processing HPUX running machine bigger than many mainframes they kindly
got me involved on Wednesday before the Saturday move.

I asked them if they had measured the route to fit the box and they
smugly sneered at me and said "of course".  

"With or without packing on it?"  

Oops.  It had to be trucked a quarter mile in the building by forklift,
then unpacked and rolled on its casters 100 yards through a cubicle
warren with about a centimeter to spare on one doorway.

It was also good I asked where the line item was on the project plan to
move the old one out of the room and get it packed and returned to
CONVEX.

"See," I told my boss after he stopped laughing/crying, "mainframe
experience is good in a UNIX shop."

:-)

Peter Duffy
Operations - Mainframe/Distributed/Network
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Information Systems Department 
310-771-6472 

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ed Gould
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: STK Equipment too tall.

On Sep 13, 2005, at 1:36 PM, John Benik wrote:

> I know we can't be the only ones to have ever run into this problem!!

> We
> are being told that the new STK equipment we are ordering is 3 inches 
> too tall and cannot go on our outsourcers floor.  Has anybody ever run

> into this in the past and if so what did you do to get around it?  We 
> have suggested several things...
>
>

Do what our idiot New York office did ... (their problem was a CPU).

They opened a brand new data center in the Meadowlands . They busted
open a window (on the second floor) and hired a hoist to get it in
through the window.

Between the the ex-******** and the people who had moved data centers
before it would fit. COUGH COUGH COUGH. Luckily (un?) the people who
assured everything just got out the door (from their former company) who
moved to Utah. As one of the VP's said to me (in private we got hosed).
It was sort of IBM's fault (as well) as they didn't do the measurements
themselves or else it would never gotten past systems assurance.

ED

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