Dave, I know DFHSM won't migrate a dataset without it being backed up beforehand, but it won't delete one either? The manual I'm looking at says that DFHSM processes expiration attributes before it processes migration attributes. And in the backup section of the same manual it says the number of backup copies of a deleted dataset says how many to retain. It says nothing about needing to have backups before allowing a delete.
I double-checked and the datasets I'm testing with have all their attributes. I guess I'll wait a week and see if the one I updated will go away. Thanks. Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: DFSMS and deleting expired datasets by management class Not so much as not opened. But, it won't mess with invalid datasets. An unopened dataset could be incompletely defined (usually an unknown DSORG). And, usually DFHSM won't migrate or delete without a backup existing. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: DFSMS and deleting expired datasets by management class > > Jack, > > Secondary Space Mgmt runs at 23:00 every night. I see no errors in the > HSM sysouts. > > Is it possible that HSM won't touch a dataset that hasn't been opened? > For my test, I merely allocated some datasets then left them sit. I > just opened one today and changed it to see if that would make any > difference. > > Rex > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of John Kelly > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:14 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: DFSMS and deleting expired datasets by management class > > <snip> > I'm trying to get DFSMShsm to delete expired datasets based on > management > class > <unsnip> > > Does SECONDARY SPACE MANAGEMENT run? That's where they should get > deleted > if in fact they have not been 'accessed' in 5 days. Also look in the > HSM > > SYSOUTs for the SECONDARY SPACE MANAGEMENT (or process the FSRs) and > see > > if give you and error for the DSNs that should be scratched. > I don't think that HSM will backup a DSN that hasn't been opened, or at > least given the basics by a Data Class. > > Jack Kelly > 202-502-2390 (Office) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

