I havent used the Cobol in the sense of Objects yet. I am some
John:

I havent used the Cobol in the sense of Objects yet. I am somewhat familar with 
XML, etc. I guess IMHO I was fortunate to have learned Assembler first and then 
Cobol. I worked in A CICS macro shop for a bunch of years in the early days, 
CICS 1.4 , we have VSE runnng CICS and VM.  At that time we VMers were kinda 
rogue. I was younger and loved VM, still do. I dont feel there is anything 
wrong with rogue ideas , as long as the the ideas that are put into practice 
can be supported. Some of the newer languages are really good and hve no issue 
with them. But learning them sometimes is the age old problem, when your buried 
with work. 
 
Scott J Ford
 




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From: "McKown, John" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 8:20:05 AM
Subject: Re: COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem

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> Subject: Re: COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem
> 
> Its interesting now people in various organizations are in a 
> 4 star panic when the word Cobol comes up. Everyone is so 
> into JAVA and the other object languages. The other 
> interesting fact is how many kids (20-30 yr olds) want to 
> learn Assembler or Cobol ...they go where the money is thats 
> JAVAm C#, C++, etc. I dont fault them, just think its a sign 
> of  changes going on.
> 
>  
> Scott J Ford

COBOL can be object oriented as well. And it does interoperate with Java, at 
least with z/OS Enterprise COBOL (tho not as well as some would like).. It's 
just that people don't seem too interested in upgrading their COBOL skills into 
the new facilities. An example here is some COBOL which does XML to interchange 
data with a Windows system. It was written by one of our more "rogue" 
programmers (who was "let go" in a recent downsizing). It works well. Other 
programmers don't like it because they are unfamiliar with and dislike XML.

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