Everyone has rules and many of them don't seem reaonable to the people who 
didin't have a hand in making them or solving the problems that occurred before 
the rules were created.  At your previous work site, they could read a thumb 
drive I broutht in but but security rules would not let them write to it.  (So 
they emailed me the updates and I got them that evening in my hotel.)  It still 
seems backwards to me but then I don't know what problem was being addressed.

At many sites, the security rules are the result of legislation or regulation, 
not corporate whim.  You don't get fired for breaking them, you go to jail.

Of course the steps I have to perform to download an ftp file to my mainframe 
that has no external connections are counter productive.  But not quite as 
counter productive as losing the contract that pays for my data center to 
operate.

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Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>Firewall security rules. Their z system is not permitted to connect
>to ftp.cbttape.org.

Elardus Engelbrecht replied:
>Ok. Thanks. It seemed reasonable to me.

Are those rules "reasonable"? I don't assume that, having observed the
common consequences of such rules in the real world. In many instances such
rules dramatically *reduce* overall enterprise security as business people
(naturally!) bypass the rules to get their (expletive deleted) jobs done.
Such rules might be a good way to end up with stolen laptops containing
your customers' credit card numbers, passport numbers, dates of birth, and
social insurance numbers, for example. Or to open up new and interesting
hacker attack vectors that become available through the workarounds.

It is also theoretically possible to heave your mainframe into the Mariana
Trench, too, allegedly in the name of "security." And to disconnect all
your telephones. It doesn't mean that's "reasonable."

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Resident Enterprise Architect
STG Value Creation & Complex Deals Team
IBM Growth Markets (Based in Singapore)
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