Debra –
Of course. Thank you for your efforts. Charles From: Debra A Quick [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:27 AM To: Charles Mills Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=* Hi Charles, Thank you for your quick response. Unfortunately, I have no control over non-IBM publications. The best thing I can do is point you to the IBM publications. I hope this helps. The following is a link to our publications page: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/ The following links go directly to the pdf of the "z/OS MVS JCL Reference" and the "z/OS MVS User's Guide". <http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea2b6a0.pdf> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea2b6a0.pdf <http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea2b560.pdf> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea2b560.pdf If there is anything more I can help you with, please let me know. Thanks. Debbie Quick z/OS MVS Technical Writer POK Softcopy Rep LookAt Web Interface Designer 2455 South Road, Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Tel: 845-435-6998 (t/l 295-6998) Fax: 845-432-9405 (t/l 292-9405) From: "Charles Mills" <[email protected]> To: Debra A Quick/Somers/i...@ibmus Date: 09/27/2010 11:07 AM Subject: RE: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=* _____ Debra – I’m not the person who originally reported this – I just forwarded the message to IBM pubs as requested. If you look down at the bottom, the original reporter was I think Etienne Thijsse. I believe he subsequently clarified that it was *not* an IBM manual he was referring to but rather some third-party textbook. Charles From: Debra A Quick [ <mailto:[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=* Hi Charles, I am the writer for the "z/OS MVS JCL User's Guide" and the "z/OS MVS JCL Reference" and have searched both publications to find what you feel needs correcting. Unfortunately, I was not able to locate the situation in which you are referring to. If you wouldn't mind taking a look in the following links and giving me an exact location, that would be really helpful. Thanks. <http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea2b6a0.pdf> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea2b6a0.pdf <http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea2b560.pdf> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea2b560.pdf Debbie Quick z/OS MVS Technical Writer POK Softcopy Rep LookAt Web Interface Designer 2455 South Road, Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Tel: 845-435-6998 (t/l 295-6998) Fax: 845-432-9405 (t/l 292-9405) ----- Forwarded by Debra A Quick/Somers/IBM on 09/27/2010 10:29 AM ----- Service Item Information Item Type: External Item Number: 20269 Open Date 09/02/2010 Publication Affected z/OS MVS JCL User's Guide Publication Number: SA22-7612 Element: MVS Planner: Jodi E Everdon/Poughkeepsie/IBM Person Responsible Debra A Quick Submitter Charles Mills Submitter email address "Charles Mills" <[email protected]> Send a copy of response to Problem Source RCF Apar Number/In Service Defect # CMVC / PTM Number CMVC Family: PMR Number (5 digits) PMR Open Date PMR Branch Office Number (3 digits) PMR Country Code PMR Origination Is this Item valid? Yes Cause Category Release Found: . Targeted Release Answer Date Days to Response: Release Fixed: . Work Completion Date: Days to Completion: Notes to the Person Responsible: Post only the submission contents in the Service Item Content field, do not post any personal notes to the writer! Service Item Content: "Charles Mills" <[email protected]> 09/02/2010 10:39 AM To MHVRCFS/Poughkeepsie/i...@ibmus cc "'IBM Mainframe Discussion List'" <[email protected]> Subject RE: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=* I am told that manual comments should go to [email protected] so that's where I am forwarding this post. Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ <mailto:[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Etienne Thijsse Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 7:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=* Yes, I believe that John is right, as I said. Maybe some "word analyzing" would be in order, because the way I read the statement from the JCL book, it says something totally different, and seemingly totally wrong... Thanks, Etienne On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 15:51:03 +0200, R.S. <[email protected]> wrote: >Etienne Thijsse pisze: >> Thanks, John, >> >> Then I guess my JCL book is wrong; it says "Coding TERM=TS on a //SYSOUT >> DD statement sends the output data set back to the terminal if it was >> submitted from a terminal." in the section about the SUBMIT TSO statement. > >I don't want to analyze the "wording", but the real meaning is as John >said. In fact your TSO session is understood as job, and this job can >use TERM=TS. Your TSO activity, including submitted jobs is something >different. The job you submitted is not related to your TSO session in >any way. It's completely different, independent entity. 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