I would go so far as to say I wouldn't rule a company like this out but I
still take some exception to the back door method used to send out their
message, after getting their email list (I'm sure they also 'checked' the DB2
list for email addresses as well - among others).
I am also a realist and this appears to be somewhat accepted in the world of
email. I harken back to the days when anything posted that even smelled
commercial would bring a stinging and last rebuke from the community. Ah the
good old days (or were they <g>) LOL
Regards,
Stan
Stan Weyman
Senior Software Engineer
stan.wey...@emc.com
EMC² (508)249-3966
where information lives
It is wise to keep in mind that neither
success nor failure is ever final...
-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:26 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: List spam
Stan, I agree.
There are always some grey areas (or grey persons, who besides plugging their
training company also provide useful contributions ;-)). However this is
indiscriminate spanning to z/OS customers including suggesting they have
subscribed, while it strictly concerns DB2 and there is a DB2-list.
Kees.
"Stan Weyman" <stan.wey...@emc.com> wrote in message
news:<63f312e6f4b4674a8f5ac4512c47ec8003e0e23...@mx06a.corp.emc.com>...
> I would agree with you if the rare work related email had been put into
> this list for all to see.
>
> The difference is the company trolled for email addresses and now is
> sending out emails purporting that "I" registered/subscribed to their website
> for product information and, should "I" no longer want that information, "I"
> need to do something to stop it, thus verifying my email address as 'live'
>
> This is not the tactic of a company I care to do commerce with I'm
> afraid...
>
> Regards
>
>
> Stan Weyman
> Senior Software Engineer
> stan.wey...@emc.com
> EMC² (508)249-3966
> where information lives
> It is wise to keep in mind that neither
> success nor failure is ever final...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
> Of Avram Friedman
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:51 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: List spam
>
> I would not consider a rare work related email as a spam attack.
>
> Most firms that seek new clients engage in some form of targeted advertising.
>
> There are a few things that seperate the email from Recovery Knowelage from
> spam.
>
> 1. Appears to to a rare event.
> 2. It is targeted and directed ... i.e. is not an advert for tulip bulbs.
> 3. Presents a real product from a small company that has been around for
> many years.
>
> When one posts to a public forum like IBM-MAIN or even joins a public forum
> some privicy is sacrficed
>
> Best wishes
> Avram Friedman
>
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 05:57:02 -0700, Steve Comstock
> <st...@trainersfriend.com> wrote:
>
> >On 1/14/2011 1:33 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
> >> Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?.
> >> Must have been done as a harvesting of the list as both addresses I use to
> >> post have been hit. No way I would have signed up (twice) for DB2
> paraphernalia.
> >> Probably seen it before and just trashed it.
> >>
> >
> >Yeah, not only did I get spammed, they spelled my company
> >name wrong throughout the email: Transiners Friend
> >
> >very primitive.
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Kind regards,
> >
> >-Steve Comstock
> >The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
> >
> >303-393-8716
> >http://www.trainersfriend.com
> >
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