As Tom Marchant pointed out, it's likely LSQA fragmentation. And the S822 was 
misleading: the step requested 8M but turns out only needed < 2M. So getting 
"everything avail in <16M private" on the job rerun worked. 

"We" (the small z/OS sysprog group) missed CHECKREGIONLOSS. Plain and simple. 
That will be addressed. Restarting an initiator is easy enough to do, but while 
fragmentation can happen (and you take a hit to find out), you want to avoid 
the easy S822's like the one we had.

The issue with how much *low* private to allow is ensuring RTM can successfully 
GETMAIN, so I'm wondering: if we change the default to 128M, or 192M, etc, do 
we need to subtract some vstor for the low private ?

Stan
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Mark Jacobs
Sent: February 9, 2011 11:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Default REGION Size

Is there any reason why you're not using the VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS 
parameter in your DIAGxx member

Mark Jacobs

On 02/09/11 11:26, Donnelly, John P wrote:
> How was the S822 corrected?
> We get this occasionally and just drain and restart the failing initiator...
> Our JOBCLASS is set to 4M...
>
> John Donnelly
> National Semiconductor Corporation
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> Of Haynes, Stan
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 6:04 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Default REGION Size
>
> We run a 4-system production sysplex using z/OS/JES2 1.11 augmented by 
> Thruput Manager.
>
> As a result of an application area reporting one of their critical jobs 
> abending S822 (issue since corrected), we found ourselves noticing a very old 
> parm value: default REGION size for all classes via the JOBCLASS statement. 
> It's still set to an 'ancient' value of 7M! Haven't assessed how many of our 
> jobs simply accept the default, but I'm thinking of changing the default 
> region size for all jobclasses  to a more current value of 32M. In this day 
> and age, not sure how many programmers have a handle on "used virtual 
> storage", and not sure it should still matter! Jobs simply shouldn't fail 
> because of "region size" in this day and age IMHO.
>
> I don't know how other shops handle this, and would like to read your 
> comments/thoughts/opinions on my suggested "new" default region size.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stan Haynes
> z/OS Systems Analyst
> Canada Revenue Agency
>    

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