Linda

>  I hope you get a large and healthy dose of your own medicine - and soon.

Since you attach this comment to my post, I guess I am supposed to be 
taking some sort of medicine or other but I cannot quite work out what it 
should be! Nor am I in the possession of any - relevant - medicine of which I 
am aware!

I suspect you have not at all understood what I have been saying so you'd 
better read though my comments to Dick Bond - again? - and try this time to 
understand what you are reading.

> ... within the environment that IBM itself often calls USS.

Please minimally check these references which I used in my response to Peter 
Hunkeler for a proper understanding:

http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0907&L=ibm-
main&T=0&F=&S=&P=198809
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/globalization/terminology/u.html

Yes, you are right, there are many in IBM that should do the same. Misuse 
within IBM is no excuse.

Once you have checked these references, you will be aware that my oblique 
reference to your use of "USS" was correct and just about as uncritical as it 
could be.

Chris Mason

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:58:34 +0000, Linda Mooney 
<[email protected]> wrote:

>For those of you have have been sincerely helpful, please know how very 
much I appreciate you.  For those of you who have had your sport at the 
depth of my ignorance on the subject of HFS files and how to properly 
manage them within the environment that IBM itself often calls USS, I hope 
you get a large and healthy dose of your own medicine - and soon.    
>
>
>
>Linda 
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Chris Mason" <[email protected]> 
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:59:39 AM 
>Subject: Re: HFS file questions 
>
>Dick 
>
>> "USS" - meaning Unix System Services, not the VTAM term Unformatted 
>Session Services  :-))[1] 
>
>Well, I thought I knew just about all that really mattered about VTAM but I 
>was puzzled by "Unformatted Session Services" about which I could not 
recall 
>previously having heard. 
>
>Checking the manuals - z/OS V1R12 just to make sure they were the latest - 
I 
>found - to my relief - that "USS" still meant "Unformatted *System* 
Services" 
>as I remembered it and had not been transformed to "Unformatted *Session* 
>Services" however plausible a sequence of words that might conceivably be 
in 
>the context of VTAM and SNA. 
>
>Perhaps there is a consideration that can be taken into account before 
>sentencing in that there *are* two flavours of USS table, a "*session*-level 
>USS table" and an "operation-level USS table". I suppose it's easy to get 
>confused in this complex world of VTAM and so a caution can be handed 
down. 
>
>Incidentally, earlier in the thread Stephen Mednick quoted a manual 
>where "USS" in this unofficial context was introduced as "UNIX System 
>Services (USS)" so I guess, because it is part of the same thread, "her" 
>thread, of course, that Linda Mooney has an albeit tenuous excuse for the 
>misappropriation! 
>
>Chris Mason 
>
>[1] I caught this travesty only because I have a digest from Google Groups 
>every day as a way of making sure I don't miss the one in 10 or 20 or so 
>threads within which I may have something to say. The reference to USS 
just 
>happened to appear in the sample text offered with this digest system. 
>Otherwise I would have passed all of this by in blissful ignorance of the 
>malapropism. 
>
>The Google Groups digest can also pick up threads from poor deluded 
>individuals who imagine that they have posted a query or provided an answer 
>only to be totally ignored because the post appears neither in subscribers' 
>inboxes nor the archives. 
>
>On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:44:47 +0000, Bond, Dick (DIS) 
<[email protected]> 
>wrote: 
>
>>Hi Linda, 
>> 
>>"USS" - meaning Unix System Services, not the VTAM term Unformatted 
>Session Services  :-)) 
>> ... 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>> Behalf Of Linda Mooney 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:40 PM 
>>> To: [email protected] 
>>> Subject: Re: HFS file questions 
>>> 
>>> Hi Dick, 
>>> 
>>> Nobody here, me included, has ever used copytree.  None of us know 
>>> much about USS at all, although I am determined to learn - if it kills me! 
>>> ... 

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