Both you and Kirk have valid points.  I am obviously trying to set up a non 
work account for IBM Main.  I'd rather use my ISP as I pay for it anyhow, the 
speed is usually pretty good and I can use something like Outlook from home or 
the webmail ISP interface via a browser when at work.  At least that's the 
theory.  I didn't have a chance last night to try a post from Outlook.  I still 
think the webmail interface is using something like HTML but I haven't tried 
calling them yet.  That's the next step after trying outlook from home.  It'll 
get resolved eventually.  One thing I've learned in this business is patience.

    Thanks to all for the suggestions and support.

       Regards,
          Stan

Stan Weyman 
Senior Software Engineer
stan.wey...@emc.com
EMC²  (508)249-3966
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It is wise to keep in mind that neither
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Goossen
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:01 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: rejected messages from verizon account

Kirk,
People have different situations. I have had the same ISP for the last 9 
years because, until recently, nothing else in my area had the speed I 
wanted at the same or lower price. Now there are some options. But I am 
hearing from neighbors that I am getting better service than they are. I 
had a Hot Mail account for a short time, until I had a problem with it and 
dropped it. I seldom go directly to the ISP web mail. I use a PC 
application to access my email. My ISP has great SPAM filtering, but I 
have better on my PC. And my ISP has given me great support when things 
have gone wrong. There are likely hundreds of different situations among 
the readers here. Solutions for our own situations that are not similar to 
that of the OP are not helpful.

Stan,
To help with your situation:
If it isn't a text versus HTML situation as suggested earlier, I suggest 
starting with your ISP and see if they can help. I had similar issues at 
work getting subscribed to IBM-MAIN. It turned out that the company had 
blocked the website because it did something that was unsafe. They opened 
it up for me just long enough to subscribe and then blocked it again. I 
have heard of some ISPs that default to blocking some things to protect 
their subscribers. If that is your case, then they can tell you how to 
unblock it.

Thank you and have a Terrific day!

Jonathan Goossen, ACS, CL
Tape Specialist
ACT Mainframe Storage Group
651-361-4541



From:   Kirk Wolf <k...@dovetail.com>
To:     IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date:   03/09/2011 02:18 PM
Subject:        Re: rejected messages from verizon account
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu>



Stan,

This is not really what you asked, but why would you want to use an email
account from your ISP?   I end up switching ISPs every couple of years to
get a better deal.

Just get yourself a GMail account (or Hotmail, etc, etc).   Its a better
product that you will get from an ISP, and you never have to change if you
decide to dump your ISP.   You might even want a separate one just for 
list
subscriptions and then you can read it via a POP or IMAP client, along 
with
your "real" email account.

Even better, get yourself a domain name and then pay for an email hosting
service.    We use TuffMail.   They have a terrific offering for a
reasonable price and they do a great job of SPAM filtering and support.
 The support is worth its weight in gold if you ever need it - ever try
calling an ISP or free email provider for support?

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com


PS> Other unsolicited tips for using an ISP, especially if you work from
home:
-- don't use an ISP's DNS service, either OpenDNS or Google's DNS will be
faster and you will often avoid outages caused by their crappy DNS servers
-- don't install their software on your computer.  You don't need it and 
it
is only designed to sell you ads and make them money.
-- don't pay for their modem.   You'll save money and get something better
from NewEgg (and its easier to avoid using their crappy integrated router)
-- don't pay for their WIFI/router.   Get yourself a WRT54G or something
that you can flash with the open source "Tomato" firmware, and you will 
have
a *much* better firewall and router.


On 3/9/2011 6:22 AM, Stan Weyman wrote:

>    I'm trying to use a personal account on verizon.net and am getting a
>> reject for each message sent.  I can't see anywhere in the settings 
anything
>> that might be causing an issue.  The subject line is 'test' and the 
message
>> is 'Please ignore this test message'. The message I am getting back 
isn't a
>> lot of help either:
>>
>>

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