Some might argue that a LAN cannot be considered 'secure' if there is a Windows 
box anywhere in the path :-)

As near as I can tell, PCI does not currently require encryption on internal 
LANs. However, I've read about internal networks being penetrated and 
compromised, so I wonder if that the encryption requirement is not far off. I 
do seem to recall such a rule that was proposed then quickly withdrawn a year 
or two ago. 

Point is that it might be prudent to anticipate the requirement sooner than 
later. 
 

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>From personal experience here: Our z/OS network person campaigned for "no 
>outbound connections" (other than whitelisted) because he knows that the 
>majority of the corporate information resides on the z/OS system. So he felt 
>this was a good security thing. But then we allow anybody to do an ftp client 
>connection from their desktop to z/OS and that kills the reason. My 
>orientation is like the RACF group says: Secure the data using RACF rules. 
>Don't depend on a secure channel to protect the data (except in flight - but 
>we don't encrypt on the internal LAN).

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 5:38 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> > Behalf Of Dick Bond
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:19 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
> > 
> > That's a couple of big "ifs" - that's why we can't use it.  Our
> workstation IP
> > addresses, even if fixed (like mine - most are not), cannot be
> accessed from
> > z/OS.  I would think most real-world shops are that way - if not,
> well, they
> > may need to hire some networking personnel to setup proper security.
> > 
> 
>   I am curious, why do some of the powers that be fear connecting 
> their mainframe to the network. With proper vpn, there should be no 
> reason to block z/OS from reaching out to users work stations. I 
> wouldn't even insist on vpn if WSA would do SSL or SSH tunneling. And 
> presumably much of this traffic would be on an intranet, not the wild 
> and wooly Internet.
>   There is no fear of virii, well maybe an application in java, but 
> certainly not the system. Properly secured, a user can get anywhere 
> they don't belong not matter what port or door they come in on.
> 
>   I'd truly hate the (IMO unneeded) extra steps to do Shopzseries or 
> CA MSM without direct connection to IBM and CA's sites.
> 
>   Is there a real reason, not PHB paranoia that I'm missing?
> 
> Dave Gibney
> Information Technology Services
> Washington State University
> 
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