Don't be sorry. I'm glad you said it. I had something happen the other day that really made me laugh. The ratio of System Admins to system programmers here is about 8 to 1. Management wanted us to start showing the admins the systems aspect of z/os and the z10. One of the really bright guys came over and the first thing he asked was when the system hangs how do I reboot it. I laughed out loud and explained to him that we have scheduled IPL's once a week and don't do reboots in the middle of the week. He really couldn't believe it.
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 10:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: java executables using batch As Chris Mason and I pointed out, the manual is a pretty good Jags: As Chris Mason and I pointed out, the manual is a pretty good starting point and another good reference is a lot of IBM and Share presentations. We all will admit, no one knows all the answers, it takes digging/researching/experience to find the solution. Also I might add, knowledge of the environment with the help of your friendly z/OS System's Programmers. These guys and gals are the unspoken heroes of a lot of shops. They usually are right on the frontlines. Sorry all for being on the soapbox, but the System Programmers( of which I was honored) to be among for many years, need the 'ata boys too' Scott J Ford www.identityforge.com ________________________________ From: Chris Mason <chrisma...@belgacom.net> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sat, May 21, 2011 10:49:35 AM Subject: Re: java executables using batch Jags >I'm going to assume he would have made a similar to identical suggestion if he >had realised that JZOS was a handy hook on which to hang your enquiries. And just about simultaneously - given the delays involved while we toil putting together helpful posts for you - he did! Chris Mason On Sat, 21 May 2011 09:41:26 -0500, Chris Mason <chrisma...@belgacom.net> wrote: ... > >I'm going to assume he would have made a similar to identical suggestion if he >had realised that JZOS was a handy hook on which to hang your enquiries[3]. > >... On Sat, 21 May 2011 07:39:42 -0700, Scott Ford <scott_j_f...@yahoo.com> wrote: >Jags, Here is what Mark spoke of it took all of a 5 sec search on Google... http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/ajvc0103.pdf Scott J Ford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ========================== This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
